Legaltitan Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 This may be what it looks like when the walls really start closing in. Pray for our country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 What happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 hours ago, 52O said: What happened I have no idea what @Legaltitan is referring to. This is my guess. https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-sought-options-to-strike-iran-11547375404 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Friday, Jon Meacham, the presidential historian, said that in Nixon's last days, the Secretary of Defense ordered the Pentagon that any military actions, ordered by President Nixon, had to be approved through him, the Secretary of Defense, first because he was worried President Nixon might order military and tanks to the DC to bunker down and fight it out. Meacham did not say what gave the Secretary of Defense the authority to do that, instead shifting to other presidential history. President Nixon was intelligent and rational, so if the Pentagon took steps to protect the military from him, I assume they have extra safeguards against President Trump. Nixon example start around 0:50 mark: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 This whole shit show. The fact we have the longest shutdown in history with no end in sight and no negotiations. And at the same time the FBI is leaking the story about the counterintelligence investigation into Trump and other people in the admin are leaking the story about the putin meetings. Reo said a few days ago that this shutdown fight is the stand and I'm starting to think he's right. Trump is not going to give in. He doesn't want to lose his base and he loves the ratings and chaos from the shutdown. He is showing to everyone he will burn the whole fucking thing down and that his base will be behind him. Im just saying we may look back one day and say this was the beginning of the constitutional crisis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: He doesn't want to lose his base But he probably is and this shutdown is causing it. He is starting to materially slip in the non-college education white group in just the last month. It could be random noise but based on what is happening, it is likely a real decline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, 9 Nines said: But he probably is and this shutdown is causing it. He is starting to materially slip in the non-college education white group in just the last month. It could be random noise but based on what is happening, it is likely a real decline. It doesn't matter. He believes this fight is important to his base and he believes this is good politics and defense for him and a good distraction. Any evidence to the contrary will be murky for a while and therefore won't convince him to go against his gut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Legaltitan said: This whole shit show. The fact we have the longest shutdown in history with no end in sight and no negotiations. And at the same time the FBI is leaking the story about the counterintelligence investigation into Trump and other people in the admin are leaking the story about the putin meetings. Reo said a few days ago that this shutdown fight is the stand and I'm starting to think he's right. Trump is not going to give in. He doesn't want to lose his base and he loves the ratings and chaos from the shutdown. He is showing to everyone he will burn the whole fucking thing down and that his base will be behind him. Im just saying we may look back one day and say this was the beginning of the constitutional crisis. What will it take for McConnel to budge? That’s always been the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 I now think there is a real chance Trump ends up in jail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, 9 Nines said: But he probably is and this shutdown is causing it. He is starting to materially slip in the non-college education white group in just the last month. It could be random noise but based on what is happening, it is likely a real decline. If you’re a republican and you lose non-college whites, what do you even have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: I now think there is a real chance Trump ends up in jail I think most prefer it to happen after his term.Just not sure it will make it that far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: I think most prefer it to happen after his term.Just not sure it will make it that far. The Mueller report will be the final nail. Once that comes out the landslide begins Whether or not he makes a deal and resigns is another question. He's so far in I don't know if he can deal his way out. He might need to go to prison plain and simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Starkiller Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: If you’re a republican and you lose non-college whites, what do you even have? White supremicists and dominionists... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: What will it take for McConnel to budge? That’s always been the question. Pressure from more of his colleagues. I think this is a sign that Graham is starting to crack. https://politicalwire.com/2019/01/13/graham-says-trump-wont-give-in-on-border-wall/ He wanted Trump to declare an emergency bc then it'd go to the courts and take heat off Republicans. Trump didn't. Now he's pushing Trump to open it for a short time so they can negotiate. Trump wants them to just fall in line and continue to back him. I don't think that happens. I think either they talk him into caving or Republicans start backing a CR enough to over ride his veto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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