begooode Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 @Little Earl might be kneeling under Trump’s desk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Soxcat said: She is right but they are out to get Trump because they are assholes that want power and are corrupt. They are also running to cover up previous lies and crimes. Libtards are dumb enough to let them get away with it. Hey soxcat... you ever looked at the # of people indicted/ subpoenaed/ jailed per presudent going back to Kennedy? Its amazing. Even with house and senate control the majority of the time.. the republicans are like 20x more people doing shady corrupt shit. Obama has no one in 8 years and trump has like 10 already. Seriously. Look it up. Republican politicians are greedy shady motherfuckers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Starkiller said: I'm not sure if Russia expected the amount of blowback they are going to reap from all of this though. They have been exposed as a manipulator and I would assume that a Democratic President could swiftly take action against them in 2021 and would immediately revive the ties with NATO and the EU. Is 4 years of global instability really worth massive sanctions that could cripple them economically? You make the mistake of assuming they actually give a fuck about their own country. If they cared, Putin, the top men, and all the oligarchs wouldn’t be leeching it’s wealth and investing outside the country while suppressing their middle class. These guys are are so mega rich that they will live in the top .0001% with all the sanctions in the world placed on them. Sanctions hurt their heir greed and pride but not the amount of hookers and yacht trips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, titanruss said: You make the mistake of assuming they actually give a fuck about their own country. If they cared, Putin, the top men, and all the oligarchs wouldn’t be leeching it’s wealth and investing outside the country while suppressing their middle class. These guys are are so mega rich that they will live in the top .0001% with all the sanctions in the world placed on them. Sanctions hurt their heir greed and pride but not the amount of hookers and yacht trips. I agree that they don’t really care about the people of Russia, but I think they do really care about Mother Russia. I think they want to rebuild a modern USSR (or perhaps Putin sees himself more a Czar than Stalin). Of course they want all the wealth, but it’s clear they are willing to put that at risk to take land from their neighbors. If a Democrat walks into office in 2021 and immediately implements massive sanctions on Russia it could be devastating economically. Obama considered cutting their banking system off from SWIFT when they invaded Crimea. I’d do exactly that the day after I was inaugurated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 @Number9 There’s no great scheme among partisans. It’s just about scoring points on the other team with no other real aim or intention. The political decisions and tangible gains are for those in power; they’re just here to fall in line and play the game. Because of this, they can be losing and still feel like they’re winning. They’re losing in reality but winning in the imaginary political construct that they’re participating in. Of course this is all reinforced by whomever propagandist they latch onto who does little less than keep the score and play gatekeeper for the teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Legaltitan said: The idiot trump doesn't even realize that, given he can't be indicted and almost certainly won't be removed from office, the "deep state" is his best friend right now. They are exposing the Russians and their bullshit so they can't hold it over trumps head anymore. It's why if trump was smart he would have come clean about a lot of this stuff long ago (not any felonies of course). Obviously his supporters wouldn't care. His numbers would be no different than they are today if he had admitted he'll yeah I do business with the Russians they make me a lot of money. And hell hell yeah I let them help me win the election that's none of my business. They were going to do it anyway. That's what makes me smart. And the same people here would be defending him. A few problems with this. His kids and his organization are in real danger. The other problem is Dems controlling the House. As this stuff is in the news and becomes reality to the public Trump will be toxic to the very Republicans who have been protecting him. Let him start pardoning people and Americans will get pissed. Americans will also get pissed when they learn he didn't pay taxes and took tons of money. The Blue wave in the mid terms will be even bigger in 2020. His core base of deplorables won't care but he won a lot of Obama voters and independents. Hillary won't be around to hate on. He needs way more than his base to be successful politically There might be a point where the Republicans need him removed from office more than the Dems. Would the Dems in fact be better off this this tainted retard running in 2020? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ctm Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: Ivanka was in charge of condo sales in Panama. Money laundering by the Russians in Panama is the reason Deutsche bank was raided yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Soxcat said: So let me get this right. Republicans are immoral people. By nature? See how dumb that is? So you assume just because someone is "conservative" or Republican they are shady? Yet we have more than ample evidence Democrats are just as low life. Just because some aren't in administrations doesn't mean they don't count either. We even had one Dem president almost impeached. Many Democrats have been indicted for various things. The shit smells on both sides. Look it up. On 9/26/2018 at 1:06 PM, Soxcat said: Depends on if you are a Conservative or Liberal. Morality is now dependent on your political beliefs. I do applaud O'Rourke's stand here. Not that there should be anything cavalier about it. Seems like common sense. Hey, please don't act like assholes to people trying to eat a meal. We are not animals. Applause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 4 hours ago, OILERMAN said: A few problems with this. His kids and his organization are in real danger. The other problem is Dems controlling the House. As this stuff is in the news and becomes reality to the public Trump will be toxic to the very Republicans who have been protecting him. Let him start pardoning people and Americans will get pissed. Americans will also get pissed when they learn he didn't pay taxes and took tons of money. The Blue wave in the mid terms will be even bigger in 2020. His core base of deplorables won't care but he won a lot of Obama voters and independents. Hillary won't be around to hate on. He needs way more than his base to be successful politically There might be a point where the Republicans need him removed from office more than the Dems. Would the Dems in fact be better off this this tainted retard running in 2020? I'd love to know what it will take for these people to stop defending Trump. I'm to the point now that there's literally nothing but I hope that's not the case and I certainly hope we don't have to find out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Soxcat said: So let me get this right. Republicans are immoral people. By nature? See how dumb that is? So you assume just because someone is "conservative" or Republican they are shady? Yet we have more than ample evidence Democrats are just as low life. Just because some aren't in administrations doesn't mean they don't count either. We even had one Dem president almost impeached. Many Democrats have been indicted for various things. The shit smells on both sides. Look it up. no... just republican politicians. theres literal proof of that. no one said democrats were infalliable. .. just that republican politicians are proven consistently more often to be pieces of shit. yet you always vote from them no matter how much they take from you or your country .. or how much they spread hate but say they love god. economically they have done less since bush#1 came on board to help the country then Dem presidents but people still believe in the false storyline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Soxcat really needs a break from the world. He's worked up into a constant fervor and can't see straight. It's sad. But I'll still mock him because you should never go full Soxcat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted November 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 4 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Not sure what they will find there, but we know the deal for the tower in Baku, Azerbaijan was crooked as hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted November 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Soxcat said: Yep, Trump influenced the Russians into using their brilliant hackers to steal the election. The real concern should be how the hell this could happen if that is true. So next time around the Russians will just let whoever they want win again? Putin just decides? That's not really what anyone is saying but ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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