StephenIsLegend Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 20 hours ago, GoaTTitanMcNair9 said: Gurley was the 3rd best in his class? Maybe I'm old and my memory is fading but I'm pretty sure he was the 1st HB taken in that draft. I agree that analysts are a joke and that Davis has better days in front of him. However, Davis is not top 5 pick material. He was overdrafted, and we could have gotten a lot more out of that pick. Not all is lost though, he should be a starting WR, and we should still be a decent team. You make it sound like Davis has already busted. It’s too early to tell all the things you’re already claiming him to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 6/3/2018 at 1:53 PM, Number9 said: Maybe so. I hope so for Lattimore. But at the time, Ross, Lattimore and I think Williams were players with injury issues. Now, a year later we are discussing possible regrets for not taking Lattimore. What if we had taken Ross? You never can be certain, but I don't think Lattimore was ever in the picture for us @5. We would have been insane to pick Ross. Never was a consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 6 hours ago, StephenIsLegend said: You make it sound like Davis has already busted. It’s too early to tell all the things you’re already claiming him to be. I don't know if I would call him a bust. I said he should still be a starting WR with better days ahead. He should have a few pro bowls in him. But he wont live up to top 5 expectations. I said that before he was drafted. It is too early to tell and that is your view. But so far I have been right and I think I will continue to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 9 hours ago, Soxcat said: Just because he was taken #5 doesn't mean he has to be one of the top two WRs in the league to worth the pick. If he is taken #5 then its expected that he performs among the best in his class, otherwise we could have done better. He hasn't even been top 25 of his class so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 4 hours ago, GoaTTitanMcNair9 said: I don't know if I would call him a bust. I said he should still be a starting WR with better days ahead. He should have a few pro bowls in him. But he wont live up to top 5 expectations. I said that before he was drafted. It is too early to tell and that is your view. But so far I have been right and I think I will continue to be. How have you been right? He was hurt the whole year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 6 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: How have you been right? He was hurt the whole year. He played in 11 games, starting 9 of them but yeah that's hurt the whole year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, GoaTTitanMcNair9 said: He played in 11 games, starting 9 of them but yeah that's hurt the whole year. I'm constantly shocked at how people can watch a sport for so long, yet understand it so little. You must have a short attention span. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 11 hours ago, GoaTTitanMcNair9 said: I don't know if I would call him a bust. I said he should still be a starting WR with better days ahead. He should have a few pro bowls in him. But he wont live up to top 5 expectations. I said that before he was drafted. It is too early to tell and that is your view. But so far I have been right and I think I will continue to be. You must be one of those “instant gratification” type of people. You must really have hated the pick. It is way too early to say he won’t live up to expectations. He was hurt most of the year and you could absolutely tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 hours ago, GoaTTitanMcNair9 said: He played in 11 games, starting 9 of them but yeah that's hurt the whole year. You obviously weren’t watching. Davis was hurt and rushed back into action. The staff basically admitted as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Sure Davis is a good player but the injury risk isn't in line with the #5 pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 People need to stop using arbitrary standard for the #5 pick, and actually look at the players on the board. This was no AJ Green/Julio Jones/Von Miller/JJ Watt/Patrick Person draft. There was one consensus Top 5 talent, and he was gone #1 overall. Jamal Adams was considered a Top 3 worthy pick, a freaking SS with 4.56 speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 59 minutes ago, patsplat said: Sure Davis is a good player but the injury risk isn't in line with the #5 pick. The injury he had when drafted healed up and is unrelated to the hamstring injury and subsequent re-injuries that actually cost him game time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: There were plenty of great players we passed on. Just because that draft waant on par with ine of the deepest is irrelevant. Can only go by who was in tha draft. One player in the entire first two rounds made the Pro Bowl as a rookie, save another ST selection. I don't really see a good argument that any of those others should have been selected over Davis at this point, unless you use the stats from an injury-riddled season in an extremely poor passing offense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 22 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: @abc2330 At this point in time....what we know now... Would you sit here today and say signing Logan Ryan and drafting Corey Davis was a better move than signing Alshon Jeffrey and drafting Lattimore? Anyone who says yes I would see as a damn fool or just a full blown homer. You seem to be the, "different is better" type. R. Matthews had more yards and more YPC in a significantly worse offense in fewer games, for a fraction of the cost. No way in hell has Jeffery proven to be worth that kind of money, and he certainly wouldn't have risked future earnings by going to a run-first offense on a prove-it deal. Ryan has obviously had a very positive impact on our young secondary players, as well as his influence to sway Lewis and Butler to join. Jeffery had his character questioned and had to sign a prove-it deal. Even in hindsight, I'm not sure what you are getting at, unless your stance is that Davis is incapable of improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: Different is better type? Yea, if the different actually is better, of course.... Matthews put up 6 more yards and PHI threw only 4 more passes per game than TEN did. Plus, PHI other WRs were better options than than what Matthews had to compete with. What Im getting at is Alshon and Lattimore would have made the team much better than Davis and Ryan did last year. And we'll see what happens going forward. Chances are it will be the same because I wont believe Davis is a 1400 and 10 guy until I see it and Lattimore is already well beyond Ryan. Jeffery's last 1,000 yard season was 4 years ago. Back when teams had Brandon Marshall to worry about. Your argument that Matthews didn't have anyone competing for catches has no merit. He averaged 15 YPC. His production translates to any offense. Again, this isn't Madden. Jeffery wanted to prove himself in an offense with one of the best offensive minds in the game. Not Mularkey. And I personally do not believe that adding a 800 yard receiver would make this team much better. Lattimore? I'm sure that the team allowing 15 fewer yards passing per game would help, but I believe that you are exaggerating his impact and how good this team could have been under Mularkey and company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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