Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker can't be discounted as Titans' draft options ( Paul Kuharsky)

[cenj]

Just now, headhunter said:

Josh Jones looks like a good prospect

This draft has several good pure-FS/ballhawking prospects, more than any year I can remember. 

Like with CB, EDGE, DL, LB, TE -- there are so many potential fits later in the draft that depending on the collection of picks we take and holes filled after via free agency, and how the coaches plan to use the pieces, I couldn't really blame them for passing on any one prospect. 

We could go the 3-safeties route, or put Byard as FS and use a dynamic ILB as the nickel guy instead. We could go CB early and dominate the secondary. Maybe Dodd blows up and they draft Allen, and decide to wait until the 3rd or later for CBs because they think they can get the to the QB fast enough to cover the secondary. Maybe they say "screw defense" and grab a WR an TE, run up the score, and force teams to throw all game. 

There's just so many options.

[Mythos27]

Adams doesn't bring anything to the team that Byard doesn't already. Byard proved to be just as good against the run and better against the pass. Adams is redundant in this defense. IF we go safety it should be the guy who brings a new, rare skill set in Hooker. 

[GLinks]

When I read that article yesterday, I was thinking PK was reading the board hard before writing that article. Moving on.

If a 5 for 12 trade happens, I think it should involve pick 33 also, straight up. Picks 12, 18 and 33 would give JRob   some good ammo.

But if Adams is there at 5, yeah, I doubt I'd want to pass on him, either, and I'd be fine with Hooker, who I don't think makes it past the Chargers at 7.

If we pick at 12 and Howard was gone, which I'm afraid he probably will be, it's probably a good landing spot for WR. I also wonder if Allen falls out of the top 5 or 10.

 

[No1TitansFan]

If we were to trade back, Hooker could still be there at 12, and Peppers would be also, and maybe at 18. Cyprien's deal is easy to walk away from after this year; in fact if he doesn't play up to the level they think he's capable of, it just might end up being a one year deal regardless of where we draft a safety.

[GLinks]

3 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Adams doesn't bring anything to the team that Byard doesn't already. Byard proved to be just as good against the run and better against the pass. Adams is redundant in this defense. IF we go safety it should be the guy who brings a new, rare skill set in Hooker. 

I kind of agree, and lean that way sometimes, but I do think they could at least interchange Adams and Byard much more successfully--which may not matter, really. Both those guys would be a boon to us.

But this conflict is why I just say gimme Howard, and worry about the rest later.

[Starkiller]

10 minutes ago, GLinks said:

If a 5 for 12 trade happens, I think it should involve pick 33 also, straight up. Picks 12, 18 and 33 would give JRob   some good ammo.

I don't know, getting a 2nd next year in exchange for a later 2nd this year may be well worth it. 

[efus50]

1 hour ago, gaskill15 said:

The Pats had 1 All-Pro last year and he was a ST guy.  We don't want All-Pros. They don't lead to winning. It's science. 

Your saying that Best players don't lead to winning

[No1TitansFan]

9 minutes ago, GLinks said:

 

If we pick at 12 and Howard was gone, which I'm afraid he probably will be, it's probably a good landing spot for WR. I also wonder if Allen falls out of the top 5 or 10.

Allen and Peppers with the 1sts, Zay Jones with the 2nd  we pick up would be my dream draft.

 

[GLinks]

3 minutes ago, No1TitansFan said:

If we were to trade back, Hooker could still be there at 12, and Peppers would be also, and maybe at 18. Cyprien's deal is easy to walk away from after this year; in fact if he doesn't play up to the level they think he's capable of, it just might end up being a one year deal regardless of where we draft a safety.

They could, but I think Cyprien gets 2 years on that deal unless he Coxes out, which I doubt he will since his coverage duties will be somewhat limited.

I suck my teeth about Hooker making it to 12. Peppers is hard to figure. He may last til late in the first, but I wouldn't cry about taking him with our 2nd pick.

[GLinks]

11 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

I don't know, getting a 2nd next year in exchange for a later 2nd this year may be well worth it. 

So, do you mean we end up with a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year after all the trading is said and done? I got lost. Or trade down from 33 for a lower 2nd plus a future? 

(After all is said and done/ You never walk you never run / You're a winner...!)

[Starkiller]

3 minutes ago, GLinks said:

So, do you mean we end up with a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year after all the trading is said and done? I got lost. Or trade down from 33 for a lower 2nd plus a future? 

(After all is said and done/ You never walk you never run / You're a winner...!)

I mean instead of trading down from #5 to #12 and getting #33 overall in return we would get #52 (originally our 2nd round pick we traded them last year) plus a 2nd round pick in 2018. The Browns have 3 2nd round picks in 2018 right now. 

[Face]

8 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

The NFL as a whole played 3 WRs 70% of the time.

A defense that has 3 safeties makes a ton of sense. Cyprien and Byard/Adams can defend against the run as well as man up against TEs.

 

I think when Mularkey says that they plan on using a "rotation" at safety he really means they plan on using that as pretty much their base defense. 

I was on the Hightower train big time but I don't think he was ever under consideration, I think Cyprien is going to be the nickel LBer & the nickel is basically the base defense.

DLB was interviewed before the year & said that if you want to get technical his defense isn't a 3-4, it's actually a 4-1-6. Avery or WW will be the only true LBer on the field in the nickel/dime & that will be played probably 70% of the time.

[Frank Andbeans]

They are building and scheming with specific match ups in mind.  I think they want versatile groups at each position to cover for different opponents.  While safety isn't un-upgradeable, you have the head coach here saying that it is a deep position for us.  I don't think they view the position as one to target like I assume they do with CB and WR.

[OILERMAN]

4 hours ago, cenj said:

The argument for safety at #5, especially Hooker, is that Byard is that starting SS and Cyprien is the 3rd safety/Nickel LB, which would amount to Cyprien still being on the field over 50% of snaps. 

 

Last year Cyprien played almost 100% of the defensive snaps last year near the line of scrimmage.

I think if they drafted Adams Cyprien would still play on most snaps including in the base. I think he could hold up against the run against two TE sets and likely Woodyard or Williamson would be the guy losing snaps.

 

[OILERMAN]

2 hours ago, Face said:

 I think Cyprien is going to be the nickel LBer & the nickel is basically the base defense.

DLB was interviewed before the year & said that if you want to get technical his defense isn't a 3-4, it's actually a 4-1-6. Avery or WW will be the only true LBer on the field in the nickel/dime & that will be played probably 70% of the time.

Exactly.....

The 3 safety looks would totally be better match-ups in the middle of the field and against TEs and RB, which killed them last season.