OILERMAN Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just now, titantez said: Does adjust mean, start throwing deep? Lmao!!!! They were trying deep passes all along The idea the offense drastically changed is false Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 The way I imagine it, Lebeau got tired of losing despite his unit kicking ass, so he gave Mularkey and Robieskie the three stooges treatment. We're all glad Robiskie isn isn't defending bunch sets anymore (or using them incessantly) - at least I imagine even Napoleon and Big are glad. We'll see if he's smart enough not to botch the last call of future games like he did against Oakland. Still, it's improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 hours ago, StephenIsLegend said: Lol @ the assumption that you're villified after two games of a better looking offense against scrub teams. I still have a ton of doubt this staff is going to bring out the most in Mariota. I think it's worth re-reminding everyone who is in the forest looking at the trees that those usual 12+ wins by the Pats didn't come against 12 great teams. And when later years Peyton was busy racking up empty stats against us and the other AFC South scrubs no one heavily discounted it. Nothing wrong with looking better against bad teams and less so against good ones. It's how it works. When you can't look good ever against anybody, well, you us the past couple years picking #2 and #1 overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 The narrative was definitely that the system was fine and that Mariota just needed to play better. Multiple experts now say they've changed the offense to suit Mariota's strengths, and now he's playing better (and so is the whole offense). Somehow people are arguing that those two things are not in conflict with each other? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Titans279 said: The narrative was definitely that the system was fine and that Mariota just needed to play better. Multiple experts now say they've changed the offense to suit Mariota's strengths, and now he's playing better (and so is the whole offense). Somehow people are arguing that those two things are not in conflict with each other? You realize we're still using the same system right? We've adjusted. After establishing ourselves as a run-first team. We're still that. Now our play action passing seems to be working. Especially against a Cleveland team that sold out against the run. Mariota was missing a lot of the deep throws he hit the last two weeks. We've all spoken about it. Our biggest hits on offense was that Mariota was finally hitting those throws and we were finally giving him enough time as an offense to make those throws. That comes from an established run game. You can't change an offense mid-season. You tweak your offense based on personnel and based on strengths and weaknesses displayed in previous weeks. The biggest difference from previous weeks is actually Mariota is running more. Which makes us more "exotic smashmouth" than ever. Based on Wright's performance we've already said we're going to scheme more opportunities for him. That's what you do in an offense with a lot of new/young pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenj Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Lots if patting on the back going on because we just beat an 0-5 Cleveland Browns. What I really liked about that game was the Titans finally started using playaction and throwing deep, which is the counter that many of us have been clamoring for. Everyone deserves more time to develop. It's hard to tell anything because we're playing one of the easiest schedules I can remember. This schedule is even easier than the one on 2011 with Munchak and Hass. Those guys went 9-7 and beat all the mediocre teams, and I remember Oman ripping both the coach and QB and not giving them any credit because it wasn't against "playoff" teams. I find it odd that he's now propping up this staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, cenj said: This schedule is even easier than the one on 2011 with Munchak and Hass. Those guys went 9-7 and beat all the mediocre teams, and I remember Oman ripping both the coach and QB and not giving them any credit because it wasn't against "playoff" teams. I find it odd that he's now propping up this staff. I brought this up on one of the podcasts Jon lost. Don't remember what his excuse was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Did anyone think washed up MH and Munchak were headed anywhere? His arm was falling off half way through the season. Id like to think these Titans will get better this season and beyond and Mariota will become a franchise QB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 And listen up I don't need "outs". I said this staff would run an NFL offense and was capable of devoloping Mariota. They are and several NFL analyst agree it's being done well. If that bothers you or you planted your flag the other way too bad. Y'all can root everything falls apart with Jamal since he's all in against Mularkey. I'll be enjoying this much improved and well coached team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 6 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Jamal, Is Maroita being ruined? Yes or no? The basis for Mularkey being a guaranteed failure because of the record with the Jags and Titans last year was retarded even for your standards Ruined? Yes! He should have passed for 5000 yds by now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakingeek Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Mariota did not execute well the first three games. The staff has tweaked the playcalling a bit and Marcus has executed very well. Not rocket science. Guess what? We won two games. We were competitive in the first games against capable teams. And it's going to get better, despite half the board wanting to shitcan the staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 8 hours ago, big2033 said: How many times have we said this? I said the offense would expand and be tweaked like all offenses are when they see what makes their players more comfortable within the framework. But this is still a run-based offense and philosophy that will use heavy formations, bunch formations and play action passing. Like with Russell Wilson etc. You start easy and expand as they look more comfortable and can handle more complicated situations. What the people who have been shitting on everything this staff has been doing want us to believe is that they've now completely revamped the offense. Which isn't true. Absolutely nailed it here Big. I was about to post something similar but you just hit the nail on the head. Ive said it from day 1, @OILERMANhas been spot on in terms of the offense & Marcus. I'm not saying I'm a 100% on board with everything this staff does on offense, but by & large they've had a good, sensible approach, maintaining a good balance of developing their young QB while putting points on the board/winning games. Sure, they've made some adjustments, you'd hope they would. But nothing has changed systemically, this is still the same offense. The staff probably narrowed down the things that work better, Wright came back, & Marcus is playing better. I do think the team is more confident sending more receivers out on routes, most likely due to increasing trust in the OL. But this is still the same offense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 So everyone who thought the offense was fine sees no changes and everyone who thought the offense want tailored to the QB sees changes. Glad we have that covered. Experts agree with the latter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Face said: Absolutely nailed it here Big. I was about to post something similar but you just hit the nail on the head. Ive said it from day 1, @OILERMANhas been spot on in terms of the offense & Marcus. I'm not saying I'm a 100% on board with everything this staff does on offense, but by & large they've had a good, sensible approach, maintaining a good balance of developing their young QB while putting points on the board/winning games. Sure, they've made some adjustments, you'd hope they would. But nothing has changed systemically, this is still the same offense. The staff probably narrowed down the things that work better, Wright came back, & Marcus is playing better. I do think the team is more confident sending more receivers out on routes, most likely due to increasing trust in the OL. But this is still the same offense. The idea was always sound, but they needed to stop running so many bunch formations, they still have to open up the offense a little more at times, and they have absolutely used the shotgun more recently. There has been a pretty noticeable shift in the play-calling and that was needed. Props to the coaching staff for realising it and making the adjustment. Many coaches are too stubborn to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just now, IrishTitansFan said: and they have absolutely used the shotgun more recently. I'd say they used less shotgun in the Browns game than any game this season. If anything they are using it less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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