abenjami Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 11 hours ago, h4t said: If Jaylon Smith really has peroneal nerve palsy he is unpickable. Unless that nerve regenerates he is basically a cripple, unable to play football. I wouldn't touch him wiith a hundred foot pole unless he shows complete regeneration of the nerve. At best, i would sign him as an undrafted free agent. There is no way to know if he will ever play again for 6 to 12 months At the same time, the vast majority of late round draft picks won't be playing either because they suck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTT Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I'm not for drafting anyone at this point with question marks associated with them medically,mentally or physically. Not much point in taking an "iffy" kind of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 10 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: Reggie Ragland might be a better lb anyway. Not even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 8 hours ago, abenjami said: At the same time, the vast majority of late round draft picks won't be playing either because they suck. Exactly. Most guys taken in the 5th or later don't survive 2 years in the NFL. I don't have a problem taking Smith in the 5th and seeing if he pans out. If not, who gives a fuck? The risk reward in such a scenario is heavily slanted in favor of reward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 10 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: Reggie Ragland might be a better lb anyway. 29 minutes ago, Bobo said: Not even close. They are two very different types of players that had very different assignments in college ball. I'd take Ragland against the run every time, but Jack if I wanted a coverage guy. There's very little overlap in the two players' skill sets thus far in their careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 minute ago, TitanDuckFan said: They are two very different types of players that had very different assignments in college ball. I'd take Ragland against the run every time, but Jack if I wanted a coverage guy. There's very little overlap in the two players' skill sets thus far in their careers. Yes they often played different roles, but Jack is still simply a better, more valuable player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 42 minutes ago, oldschool said: Exactly. Most guys taken in the 5th or later don't survive 2 years in the NFL. I don't have a problem taking Smith in the 5th and seeing if he pans out. If not, who gives a fuck? The risk reward in such a scenario is heavily slanted in favor of reward. I agree with this 12,000%.. Since you are a "risk-taker" by these standards , what's your thought on earlier due to the train of thought that we have a whole slew of picks to take a gamble on one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, Bobo said: Yes they often played different roles, but Jack is still simply a better, more valuable player. Without the knee issue I would agree, especially in this pass-happy league. But, If I had to play against LA/Gurley and/or SEA/Lynch in my division I'm not sure I wouldn't go with Ragland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Bobo said: Not even close. If Jack's injury concerns are a real problem then it's very close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, NashvilleNinja said: If Jack's injury concerns are a real problem then it's very close. Sure everything is up in the air after the injury. But it sounded like you were saying RR may have been better anyway, as in even before the injury, and I strongly disagree. Jack is imo easily one of the top players film-wise for this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcibiades Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I really like Ragland, though. I think he's exactly the kind of ILB we've been missing. I understand the worries about him in coverage, though. Will we have to pull him off the field on third down? Maybe....but I think DLB could get creative and use Ragland as a pass rusher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 3 hours ago, oldschool said: Exactly. Most guys taken in the 5th or later don't survive 2 years in the NFL. I don't have a problem taking Smith in the 5th and seeing if he pans out. If not, who gives a fuck? The risk reward in such a scenario is heavily slanted in favor of reward. If he's still sitting there in the 5th, why would you even slow down to think about it on your way to turn in the card? Hell, if he's there in the 4th, I think real hard about trading up because the talent at the back end of this draft is underwhelming imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 32 minutes ago, Alcibiades said: I really like Ragland, though. I think he's exactly the kind of ILB we've been missing. I understand the worries about him in coverage, though. Will we have to pull him off the field on third down? Maybe....but I think DLB could get creative and use Ragland as a pass rusher. Ragland and Williamson are the same guy. I think we need a faster all around ILB. Ragland is more of a thumper. Myles Jack would be perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socaltitan Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 the ILB we've met with suggest they're looking for speed and coverage ability. i don't see ragland being an option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, socaltitan said: the ILB we've met with suggest they're looking for speed and coverage ability. i don't see ragland being an option Take Dieon with a 2nd and don't look back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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