TitanDuckFan Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, Rogue said: Old guard is fine as long as the old guard can adapt to new philosophies instead of flying over their head like an ipad or smartphone. Did you see the AZ players thumbing through 3-ring binders on the sidelines yesterday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: Did you see the AZ players thumbing through 3-ring binders on the sidelines yesterday? I can't say I did. All I saw was Palmer throwing pics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Mularkey loves base personnel, he likes 2 TE & 2 RB sets & is going to use them more than anybody, aside from perhaps Carolina. This is a good thing, our TE's are great blockers. In the past he has preferred a bell cow back to RBBC & I have a feeling he's going to find one this offseason. I'm actually a little excited about his offense, it's a little more old fashioned but that's not necessarily bad. Too many teams, IMO, expose their QB's to beatings. I've seen coaches week after week stand there while one of their tackles just gets destroyed & they refuse to keep anybody in. Wiz isn't the only one doing this. A lot of coaches, like Whisenhunt, run the plays that work best in an ideal world. You know, when the blocking is great & the WR's all remember their options or their hot routes. Mularkey simplifies things a bit, he helps out the weak links on the OL. Occasionally he'll call a specific play for a WR & let him try to win his matchup. He'll call some max protect play action passes with 2-3 vertical routes. Now, if you have a ton of talent & a great QB you could probably do more with a more complicated system. But I think most teams would probably be better off scaling it back a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I am a big fan of this type of offense, I like a power running game with play action passes and a lot of TE use. Carolina offense has been fun to watch in the playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, Face said: Mularkey loves base personnel, he likes 2 TE & 2 RB sets & is going to use them more than anybody, aside from perhaps Carolina. This is a good thing, our TE's are great blockers. In the past he has preferred a bell cow back to RBBC & I have a feeling he's going to find one this offseason. I'm actually a little excited about his offense, it's a little more old fashioned but that's not necessarily bad. Too many teams, IMO, expose their QB's to beatings. I've seen coaches week after week stand there while one of their tackles just gets destroyed & they refuse to keep anybody in. Wiz isn't the only one doing this. A lot of coaches, like Whisenhunt, run the plays that work best in an ideal world. You know, when the blocking is great & the WR's all remember their options or their hot routes. Mularkey simplifies things a bit, he helps out the weak links on the OL. Occasionally he'll call a specific play for a WR & let him try to win his matchup. He'll call some max protect play action passes with 2-3 vertical routes. Now, if you have a ton of talent & a great QB you could probably do more with a more complicated system. But I think most teams would probably be better off scaling it back a bit. I don't think that offense really suits Mariota. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, oldschool said: I don't think that offense really suits Mariota. I think a shorter, quicker pass offense is better for him as well. But he does hang in the pocket & wait for things to open up, which is impressive & needed in an offense like this. Whether ideal or not, Robiskie is from the old Coryell offense, he learned under Norv Turner. There's going to be a lot of vertical throws, hopefully Marcus is working on his deep ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socaltitan Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Mularkey said there won't be a dramatic change in the offense. Just because Robiskie comes from an Air Coryell background doesn't mean that's what we're doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Face said: Mularkey loves base personnel, he likes 2 TE & 2 RB sets & is going to use them more than anybody, aside from perhaps Carolina. This is a good thing, our TE's are great blockers. In the past he has preferred a bell cow back to RBBC & I have a feeling he's going to find one this offseason. I'm actually a little excited about his offense, it's a little more old fashioned but that's not necessarily bad. Too many teams, IMO, expose their QB's to beatings. I've seen coaches week after week stand there while one of their tackles just gets destroyed & they refuse to keep anybody in. Wiz isn't the only one doing this. A lot of coaches, like Whisenhunt, run the plays that work best in an ideal world. You know, when the blocking is great & the WR's all remember their options or their hot routes. Mularkey simplifies things a bit, he helps out the weak links on the OL. Occasionally he'll call a specific play for a WR & let him try to win his matchup. He'll call some max protect play action passes with 2-3 vertical routes. Now, if you have a ton of talent & a great QB you could probably do more with a more complicated system. But I think most teams would probably be better off scaling it back a bit. This is fine as long as it is measured. It can't all be power or you're steering away from Mariota's strengths. Use the run game to protect Mariota and yes some play action will be fun, but a vertical passing game shouldn't be the focus of the offense. I would like to still see a lot of 3 WR shotgun sets/ up-tempo passing formations that spreads the defense out and makes them run every down while limiting their ability to make substitutions. That works a lot better though if defenses respect the run or your not down by two scores and don't just sell out to rush the passer. It also works a lot better if you don't have Poutasi lined up out wide against JJ Watt with no help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Face said: Too many teams, IMO, expose their QB's to beatings. I've seen coaches week after week stand there while one of their tackles just gets destroyed & they refuse to keep anybody in. Wiz isn't the only one doing this. We still averaged 2.89 sacks per game under Mularkey. That would be 46.2 sacks over a 16 game season which is tied for 6th most sacks. So while it was much worse under Whiz, Mariota (and Mett/Tanney) still took a beating under Mularkey... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 We need to get a run game going. I know we dont have the greatest RBs so im hoping we draft one or sign one in FA. I love Ezekiel Elliot but he will probably be long gone by the time we draft in the 2nd. I like Booker from Utah. He can do it all could be a good pick in the 3rd. Maybe give Lamar Miller, Forte, and Doug Martin a look...I hate the OLine Coach hire. Russ Grimm may be a HOF player but he has continued to produce shitty Olines. Cant we just bring back Munchak?? We have so much talent on the Olne that just isnt producing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 15 minutes ago, thor said: I like the way you bash a 4 time SuperBowl Champion Coach from one of the best O-lines in the history of the NFL...Wanting him out to bring in Munchack who has never played or coached in a Superbowl...Makes sense...But then, I love the Grimm hire, I remember the Hogs all to well... Just because he was a great player doesn't necessarily translate to him being a good coach. Him being out of coaching tells you all you need to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 16 minutes ago, thor said: I like the way you bash a 4 time SuperBowl Champion Coach from one of the best O-lines in the history of the NFL...Wanting him out to bring in Munchack who has never played or coached in a Superbowl...Makes sense...But then, I love the Grimm hire, I remember the Hogs all to well... You mean the Oline coach who hasn't been on a staff for 3 years and in his last 3 years of coaching had his oline give up sacks of 50, 54, and 58. Not to mention he coached under whisenhunt for several years. The guy went out of coaching on a bad note. He had a couple good years with AZ making it to a Super Bowl. Then he tanked out. Grimm has a very good playing/coaching resume but it makes me scratch my head why an oline coach has been out of the game for 3 years and is coming back to coach an oline coming off a terrible year. Also makes me wonder if he was such a good coach why teams havnt been knocking on his door with job offers. Munchak didn't coach in a super bowl? That's funny because I'm pretty sure he was on the Oilers/Titans staff for close to 20 years. He was the oline coach for 13 of those years which would include the year they went to the super bowl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 15 minutes ago, thor said: Grimm won 3 Superbowls as a player with the Redskins and coached and won a Superbowl in Pittsburgh...Sorry, I wasn't counting losing Superbowls...I guess that's how I missed Munchack---I wasn't counting losing the big game worth mentioning...Screw first loser..... You said that he never played or coached in a super bowl never mentioned winning or losing. Dont forget Grimm also lost a Super Bowl with AZ in 2008 and lost one with the Redskins while playing. Never said he wasnt a great player. He tanked out of the NFL and has sat on a couch the past 3 years. Its been nearly a decade since he coached a successful Oline. Has he produced good Olines in the past? Ya but it has just been a long time since hes done that hard to imagine he is going to jump in a turn this Oline around right away. That super bowl loss with AZ really changed his career. He couldnt stand losing to the team that screwed him over for the HC job and it ruined him. Maybe he was producing some of Michael Jordans secret stuff the past 3 years to help his Oline out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 But you couldnt tell me that Munchak coached in a super bowl.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Maybe you should use google so you dont look like an idiot. Grimms collapse is pretty well known. You might have to dig into the archive to find some good things about him since its been so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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