N/A Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 One could easily imagine a scenario where Webster is fired but not Whisenhunt but in any scenario where Whisenhunt is fired, Webster probably is also - in other words, Webster is dependent on Whisenhunt's success. That situation combined with opinions that he gives coaches what they want, it seems the first several picks are completely Whisenhunt's decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Not exactly but Wisenhunt will very heavily influence it. They wouldn't draft someone that all the scouts hate but Wis likes. But if it's at all close, Webster will draft the guy Wis/LeBeau endorse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I have a hard time believing it'll only be left to Whisenhunt. That said, only LeBeau has enough influence to keep Whisenhunt from his deathbed. And I doubt he has enough influence to overturn Whisenhunt's, Webster's, and ownership's desire for a QB. Whisenhunt because he can't help himself, and the rest are wanting to fill seats. The majority of Titans fans themselves seem unable to get passed a miracle QB to fix our awful roster. I'm in a state of doom and gloom. For me it is simple...any QB needs a roster. We don't have one, but the prevailing thought is once we get a QB, we are good to go. It is a dillusion, perhaps motivated by our failures of the last decade. It's simple to me, build a roster and the QB will come, whoever that might be. Mett showed me enough to build a roster and even if he doesn't workout, we have still focused on a roster for another QB to have a chance. I am left with believing the staff can can make the right choices as opposed to the bling choices....and I don't have faith that is the choice they'll make Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenj Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 It's simple to me, build a roster and the QB will come, whoever that might be. Mett showed me enough to build a roster and even if he doesn't workout, we have still focused on a roster for another QB to have a chance. This is my stance. We need elite talent across the board. Difference makers. If Mett bombs, we'll likely be in range for another 1st round QB, top 15 at least, probably much higher. I don't see a situation where we spend 2-3 years with the #20 pick or later, but are desperate for a QB. That would mean we're .500 or above multiple years in a row. But if that does happen, then you make a move for that solid vet QB. If we bomb, you grab a QB and know he has an OL, running game, and some defense to help out. Best case is Mett develops and we have built a legitimate contender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socaltitan Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 The next few drafts are terrible at QB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 We've attempted to fix our OL for several drafts and free agencies - Warmack, Levitre, Schwenke, Lewan, and Oher. It's still bad. We overpaid in free agency for Greene and McCluster and spent a 2nd rounder last season on Sankey. Our running game is still bad. We've had three recent early picks on defense - Ayers, Brown, and Martin drastically underperform and a multitude of FA whiffs as well. Overall, it's still bad. We've spent a first rounder and the equivalent of another on wideouts in the last 3 years and many here are still clamoring for another first round investment in the position. An indictment on Webster? Absolutely, but we've spent millions of dollars and vital draft picks in recent years attempting to remedy these exact areas that so many here think can be upgraded to satisfactory levels in one offseason by forgoing picking a quarterback at the top of the first round. A complete team is a great thing to have, that very very few teams actually have the luxury of acquiring. Bad luck in the draft and some poorly spent money mucks up the whole thing. Yet, this draft is the one where we get it right, right? The fact is, we've tried this method and failed. Do we quit attempting to fix them? Of course not, and I really like our FA moves so far this offseason, but thinking our front office will pull a rabbit out of horseshit and fix the rest of the team's weak areas by taking anyone not named Mariota isn't supported by history at all. Complete teams seldom exist in the NFL and with the awful track record we have lately for hitting on early difference makers I'm absolutely floored so many think forgoing one early pick on a quarterback takes this roster from garbage to golden overnight. Mariota is a legit prospect and very likely the best chance this team will have to draft a franchise quarterback in a long time. Many of you don't believe that, and that's fine, but I think the odds of him panning out as legitimate are greater than Ruston Webster managing to make subpar areas of the team above average when he's already thrown millions of dollars and a multitude of draft picks to do just that and has failed quite handily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlers Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Build a roster and a Qb will come. How does it come? Falls in your lap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 The next few drafts are terrible at QB I see that every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I have a hard time believing it'll only be left to Whisenhunt. That said, only LeBeau has enough influence to keep Whisenhunt from his deathbed. And I doubt he has enough influence to overturn Whisenhunt's, Webster's, and ownership's desire for a QB. Whisenhunt because he can't help himself, and the rest are wanting to fill seats. The majority of Titans fans themselves seem unable to get passed a miracle QB to fix our awful roster. I'm in a state of doom and gloom. For me it is simple...any QB needs a roster. We don't have one, but the prevailing thought is once we get a QB, we are good to go. It is a dillusion, perhaps motivated by our failures of the last decade. It's simple to me, build a roster and the QB will come, whoever that might be. Mett showed me enough to build a roster and even if he doesn't workout, we have still focused on a roster for another QB to have a chance. I am left with believing the staff can can make the right choices as opposed to the bling choices....and I don't have faith that is the choice they'll make This goes back to OS's point somewhat: if you grade MM as a top 10 QB in four years, yet you don't have the same evaluation of Mett, then MM is the pick regardless of the roster. Did the 2-14 Colts look at Luck and say "our roster sucks, so Luck shouldn't be the pick"? Mariota isn't in the same league in terms of reliability, but if that's the true projection then MM isn't only an understandable pick but the desired one. We can build around him later and through the rest if the draft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I see that every year. And its damn near come to fruition, aside from Winston, and he's not a perfect candidate either. Amateur football is ruining the NFL with its inability and desire to win with pro style offenses & traditional QB play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 The truth is teams can look for a franchise QB for decades The teams that get lucky and get one contend for years, the ones that don't are still looking and usually mediocre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I have a hard time believing it'll only be left to Whisenhunt. That said, only LeBeau has enough influence to keep Whisenhunt from his deathbed. And I doubt he has enough influence to overturn Whisenhunt's, Webster's, and ownership's desire for a QB. Whisenhunt because he can't help himself, and the rest are wanting to fill seats. The majority of Titans fans themselves seem unable to get passed a miracle QB to fix our awful roster. I'm in a state of doom and gloom. For me it is simple...any QB needs a roster. We don't have one, but the prevailing thought is once we get a QB, we are good to go. It is a dillusion, perhaps motivated by our failures of the last decade. It's simple to me, build a roster and the QB will come, whoever that might be. Mett showed me enough to build a roster and even if he doesn't workout, we have still focused on a roster for another QB to have a chance. I am left with believing the staff can can make the right choices as opposed to the bling choices....and I don't have faith that is the choice they'll make Your desire is to be the Bengals. Find a great QB, and the roster will come, not the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 The truth is teams can look for a franchise QB for decades The teams that get lucky and get one contend for years, the ones that don't are still looking and usually mediocre Exactly. Which is why they will most likely take one at #2. Give themselves more of a chance. Without a QB , you're nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Exactly. Which is why they will most likely take one at #2. Give themselves more of a chance. Without a QB , you're nothing Taking one high in the draft isn't more of a guarantee of getting one. Every 10 years or so there is a Manning/Luck prospect that is a guarantee but those guys are super rare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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