Tim Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 You run Greene. That's why you signed his ass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prometheus Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 There are valid arguments either choice. The team had scored 17 unanswered points and had great momentum going. What crowd remained was finally sounding some noise. Arizona had all the pressure in OT. On the other hand, if this team cannot make one yard with all the adrenaline flowing and Arizona back on their heels, then what does the present if not the future hold? Such decisions lead to coaching knighthood or the garbage pail. And it happens without regard to the actual decision. Simply the outcome. pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLocker10 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 "Over the years, the average success rate of two point conversions in the NFL has been around 50% (compared to a near 100% conversion on the single extra point)." http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-two-point-conversion-statistics/2013/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Did they go off-sides in that game on the extra point? 1 yard is immaterial. If you wanna go for it, do it. If not, don't. Personally I couldn't care less which. I'd have been fine if they had. I was fine that they didn't. But acting like it was some wrong and horrible decision is just silly. Its just fans being bitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 The only reason Shanny is getting killed for his decision is because some people think he has ulterior motives. When you are 3-11 who gives a shit? I wouldn't have had an issue if Munch went for it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 1 yard is immaterial. If you wanna go for it, do it. If not, don't. Personally I couldn't care less which. I'd have been fine if they had. I was fine that they didn't. But acting like it was some wrong and horrible decision is just silly. Its just fans being bitter. It was an honest question. A yard is not immaterial. It affects the percentages of the outcome pretty drastically, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Reo doesn't care! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'm always surprised at the number of people who think the PAT is a no-brainer, and that it's stupid to go for two in that situation. If your offense can gain two yards, you win the game. If you can't, you lose. Simple as that. Please.....someone explain to me why playing for overtime is statistically so much more likely to win than a single do-or-die play from the two-yard line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Munchak said in the presser he was unaware of the fact a team can go for two instead of kicking the PAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Scene, if Munchak goes and fails, he is ridiculed for making a move the vast majority of NFL coaches don't. The kick is practically a sure thing. Then you give your team a chance to out play your opponent. One shot at two points is just not equal. I don't care what the vast majority of coaches do. I see things that the vast majority of coaches do every week that are wrong. Punting on 4th and short at midfield in a tight game. Not kicking onsides late down by a score when you haven't been able to stop the other team all day. It's almost like there's an unwritten code that you do certain things even if they represent an ancient ancient way of thinking. To me not going for the two there is fear of failure. They had a chance to win the game from 1 yard out and instead went to the 50-50 chance of winning in OT. What do you think the Titans chances of scoring from a yard out were? Certainly greater than 50%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMJ Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Munch went Fisher. That said, thank God he didnt go for two. We may have converted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I don't care what the vast majority of coaches do. I see things that the vast majority of coaches do every week that are wrong. Punting on 4th and short at midfield in a tight game. Not kicking onsides late down by a score when you haven't been able to stop the other team all day. It's almost like there's an unwritten code that you do certain things even if they represent an ancient ancient way of thinking. To me not going for the two there is fear of failure. They had a chance to win the game from 1 yard out and instead went to the 50-50 chance of winning in OT. What do you think the Titans chances of scoring from a yard out were? Certainly greater than 50%. Is this really worth arguing about? Does it prove Munchak doesn't know what he is doing? No and No. The man made the same choice that most coaches make. They make the choice, not because they are scared, but because statistically that is the best choice. It did not work out. I think the Titans have a mess of worse problems than this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Munchak said in the presser he was unaware of the fact a team can go for two instead of kicking the PAT Actually, Munch said he plans on filing a grievance with the league office. He's upset because field goals are supposed to count for three points. But on that play, the officials gave the Titans only one point....and he's demanding an explanation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Teams average 0.89 trying to run for two... 1.13 passing... and 1.02 overall. You had the shorter distance but the Titans line couldn't run block all game. The team had momentum. Fitzgerald was knocked from the game. The only reason you go for it is because your record sucks and who cares, not because it's the right call... and the answer is that the Titans players, coaches and FO care - so they do the smart thing and failed a different way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Actually, Munch said he plans on filing a grievance with the league office. He's upset because field goals are supposed to count for three points. But on that play, the officials gave the Titans only one point....and he's demanding an explanation. Munchak should have thrown his red hankie. That usually works out well for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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