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The nuance is context and in terms of this game, SEA was clearly game planning on offense and maybe a lesser extent on defense. That said, Ward has looked very ordinary in the 2 games. His best play IMO was the scramble throw to Helm who didn't get his feet down but even then the throw was a tad late - a tick earlier and it's not nearly as difficult a catch. The elephant in the room is that he was drafted #1 overall. The expectation is a stud QB - top 10 type of guy. He's got a way to go - I think a reasonable comp would be Caleb Williams whom did make a jump in year 2 although not I don't think he's the guy he was proclaimed to be pre-draft....

Dike is the backup slot guy and is an all pro returner. Restrepo isn't even listed as slot but instead outside behind Ridley and Ayamanor

I see - good can always be taken with a grain of salt. Bad is always concerning because you're typically not game planning and in the Titans case they've been playing their one's versus everyone's backups.

Henry has 143 yards and a long TD and Pacman had a punt return TD..... Nothing tops the Jags game that year when they won with 3 defensive/ST TD's and the one offensive scoring drive was setup by a long kick return and they lost yardage on the drive to settle for a FG. They had 98 yards of total offense and were 0-8 on 3rd down. But VY was a winner!

Anyone who has any kind of emotional intelligence or relationships with adults knew from the get go that these 2 were fucking from the initial release of the photos and info. The efforts by Vrabel, Russini, NE, and the Athletic were inept in terms of damage control. Russini will never recover from being the NFL whore and any goodwill Vrabel has built will go away once they inevitably regress now that they don't have the easiest schedule in the last 30 years.....

Retard Russ has said plenty of dumb things over the years but if he truly thinks Fisher made it all up in a ruse to get rid of the retard QB by getting him shot to death by cops is up there. Hell if his theory is true, Fisher deserved coach of the year!

I'd be concerned if he thinks he's earned the right to be sloppy in preseason because he's accomplished nothing of note so far. The far more likely reality is that he has footwork/mechanics issues just like he did as a rookie and in college. The scary thing is that the examples of guys who fix that while in the NFL are extremely rare. Hopefully he's one of the few and Daboll and Tierney can fix it.

It's too early to panic but the mechanics/footwork/accuracy issues that keep on popping up with Ward were obvious pre-draft and always made his ceiling debatable. Off script wow plays are nice but the best QB's can play consistently from the structure of the offense. He got a pass from 2025 because the coaching staff was completely inept but he'll need to show some real growth once the games start for real. The leash on these top draft pick QB's isn't 5 years like with Pineapple Tebow or retard VY.

3 absolutes....Death, Taxes, and Tards on TR. The Radio of QB's had to be forced back into the Jags game on 9/7. Gets injured. Skips the mandatory medical examination and MRI the next morning and the team can't get a hold of him. Then the retard storms out of his house with a gun after telling his personal therapist he had suicidal thoughts and wanted to quit football (AGAIN). His own business manager chased after him in his car going 90 MPH and the therapist calls Fisher telling him all of this. But it's Fisher's fault! No it's all on the lazy, entitled, immature, weak bust of a QB. https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=3584636 As for the tard babble in here about W/L record, the VY data sample is a prime example of why assigning wins and losses to QB's requires context that many of the morons on here can't even comprehend. They were winning most of the games in 2006/2007 in spite of his QB play, not because of it.

How ironically funny is this? He died from ALS for the tards that don't know.

Or ALS..... Too soon for a CJ vs Shaw death poll?

What's funny is that you guys think this is torture....it's merely saying what half the board is thinking when you dumbfucks post tard babble.

We don't need more homer TEN losers on here.....There's too manyalready.

LOL no not him. I wish because he was pretty brilliant back in the day as a poster and TC in general had better content, better discussions, more competent posters. He and Oman had some team and media contacts. Anyone who posted back in those days knows our styles are way different. He was far more nice than I'd ever be to the idiots. That said, pretty sure he never would have made an idiot like you a moderator although let's face it....you moderate as well as you post. From being a homer for VY and Mariota to dumb shit like this.....If I recall, the only reason TC was even created was because they were above the swill at GoTitans.....

LOL the fact someone made you a moderator is pretty funny. Titans Central never would have....They had standards. This is far more GoTitans that some of you want to admit.... It's not even an argument - anyone who projects these guys as traitors because they went to the Ravens after the Titans moved on is a moron. Case closed.

Wrong again. My posts are about how STUPID and INFANTILE such a stance is and mocking it as such - calling a player a traitor because he signed with a team one doesn't like. Derrick Mason or any player/ex-player pays no mind to retard fan's and their view of things. LOL at you retards trying unsuccessfully to defend that kind of tard babble but that's the norm for this place.

Those guys could actually play.

What about all of the games where the opposing fans filled the stadium in Nashville? It's indisputable that local fan support of the Titans has been historically poor. I get it - between all of the transplants there, poor product, ticket prices - but it's true.

If he plays decent enough in TC/preseason, why not just keep him as the 2 and if he happens to build up his value during the season, he could garner more next March.

The fans did until the team announced they were moving.....then it looked like a Titans home game! The issue was always Houston not wanting to fund a new stadium, something they ended up doing anyway after the Oilers moved to Nashville.

Parsing over hating him as a person is irrelevant to the discussion. I mean who gives a fuck what his personal feelings for anyone is. Saying a player is a traitor because he goes from "your team" to a "rival team" is the issue and what was and is stupid and infantile. It's Go Titans stuff.

BS - he said Mason (and I guess this would apply to Rolle, McNair, and Henry) a traitor because he signed with the Ravens after the Titans ended his employment. That's what's a fucking stupid, infantile take. Anyone with that thinking is an idiot. Players have no obligation to work for a team that may be a rival team to the Titans whether it's the Ravens or Colts or Texans etc. whether fans like it or not.

What would be hilarious, frightening, and entertaining as hell is if Levis outplays Ward in TC and Preseason.....I don't expect it but at the same time both Brinker and Borgonzi have said it's not an absolute that Ward starts day one.

Hard to see how Levis could win the job but good on him for not rolling over about it.....

I always love the horrid assumptions you idiots make over and over. I don't care that the team relocated and changed names.....and I wouldn't care if they left TEN and went somewhere else either..... Of course none of that takes away from the reality that the Oilers logo/uniform is still way better than anything the Titans have had to date.....and I'm far from the only one who thinks this. It also doesn't take away from the fact that Nashville does a poor job of supporting the team and that the local fans are generally stupid.