tgo Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: if JRob believes DeFilippo is the best qualified person the fix Mariota he needs to make him HC and let them have a few years together to grow. appointing Vrabel or Wilks and having DeFilippo as a short term (1yr) OC doesn't help Mariota having to learn yet another system for 2019. Disagree on the first bit, but your concern is very real on the second bit. Definitely a problem. I think you hire a head coach to lead your football team. Not a QB guru to fix Mariota. That's the QB coach/OC's job imo. Now, if you can find a guy that can do both very well, then ok. But that's very very rare and imo more likely to fail. Edited January 18, 2018 by tgo Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socaltitan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 That's where you might consider a Todd Haley or Mike McCoy if Vrabel or Wilks is the hire. Then you get an experienced OC who's likely not getting another HC gig. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, socaltitan said: That's where you might consider a Todd Haley or Mike McCoy if Vrabel or Wilks is the hire. Then you get an experienced OC who's likely not getting another HC gig. Haley is a headcase, don't want him anywhere near this team Titans279, and scine09 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socaltitan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) His personality is definitely a concern, but he's an experienced OC (8 seasons) who's been successful in multiple stops. PIT was a top 5 offense this season in many major categories and have been top 5-10 level since he's been there. He does things I think a lot of us will like. PIT ran 76% of their plays this season in shotgun. It'd be way more shotgun with him. He's more pass happy. And he feeds his best players. Guys like Brown, Fitzgerald, Boldin, Bell, etc have put up their best numbers with him as OC. I think Corey could make a huge 2nd year jump with a guy like Haley as OC. He will make it more of a priority to get Davis involved. I never felt like Davis was much apart of the gameplan at all this year. It wouldn't surprised me if that was one among many things that irked JR. I know it's not as exciting, but if you're looking at stability for OC/DC guys like Haley, Jack Del Rio, Mike McCoy, etc are out there. And they're experienced guys who've been successful coordinators, but still relatively young enough that they're not going to be in the retirement home soon. McCoy is 45. Haley 50. Del Rio 54. Edited January 18, 2018 by socaltitan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Tomlin’s coordinators magically fall on the sword when the team underperforms. The benefit of a Haley, and I’m not 100% in support of him, is he is never likely getting another HC job, his offense works and Marcus wouldn’t be changing systems or coaches in another year or two in most likelihood. Edited January 18, 2018 by AvgJoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, tgo said: Disagree on the first bit, but your concern is very real on the second bit. Definitely a problem. I think you hire a head coach to lead your football team. Not a QB guru to fix Mariota. That's the QB coach/OC's job imo. Now, if you can find a guy that can do both very well, then ok. But that's very very rare and imo more likely to fail. This is why I'm fine with Vrabel as long as he can put together a solid staff. The HC is a leader, a spokesman, game manager, and an approver of gameplans. The staff is where the dirty work is actually done and that's why some guys are great OC but bomb as HC or maybe they weren't great coordinators or even never were coordinators but can come in and have a lot of success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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