Jamalisms Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Just tried trading into a bunch of 2nd and 3rd round picks to see what it would do for the score... Had 3 twos and 9 threes... 25 picks overall. I made my 24th pick and it reset me. LAME. Not convinced I was doing anything anyway. My confidence in rounds 3 through 4 is low. Your Picks: Round 2 Pick 8: Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International (A-) Round 2 Pick 10 (MIA): Arthur Brown, OLB, Kansas State (B+) Round 2 Pick 25 (HOU): Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana ( B ) Round 3 Pick 2 (JAX): Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky (B-) Round 3 Pick 8: B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary (B-) Round 3 Pick 9 (BUF): Barrett Jones, C, Alabama (A) Round 3 Pick 15 (MIA): Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech (C-) Round 3 Pick 16 (STL): Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia (A-) Round 3 Pick 27 (HOU): Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina ( B ) Round 3 Pick 30 (ATL): Bennie Logan, DT, LSU (A-) Round 3 Pick 31 (S.F.): Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina ( B ) Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall ( B ) Round 4 Pick 10: William Gholston, DE, Michigan State (C-) Round 4 Pick 25 (G.B.): Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina (A) Round 4 Pick 30 (ATL): EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State (A) Round 4 Pick 31 (S.F.): Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State (A) Round 5 Pick 14 (T.B.): Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State (A) Round 5 Pick 19 (NYG): Khaled Holmes, C, Southern California (A) Round 5 Pick 26 (G.B.): Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers (A) Round 6 Pick 12 (S.F.): Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma (A) Round 6 Pick 20 (CHI): Anthony McCloud, DT, Florida State (A) Round 6 Pick 30 (ATL): Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma (A) Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston (A) Round 7 Pick 10: Luke Marquardt, OT, Azusa Pacific (A) Round 7 Pick 42 (COMP) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
volntitan Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 It is interesting how many of the times I do the draft the number of repeat players I pick. Also, how often St. Louis wants to trade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Just tried trading into a bunch of 2nd and 3rd round picks to see what it would do for the score... Had 3 twos and 9 threes... 25 picks overall. I made my 24th pick and it reset me. LAME. Not convinced I was doing anything anyway. My confidence in rounds 3 through 4 is low. Your Picks: Round 2 Pick 8: Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International (A-) Round 2 Pick 10 (MIA): Arthur Brown, OLB, Kansas State (B+) Round 2 Pick 25 (HOU): Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana ( B ) Round 3 Pick 2 (JAX): Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky (B-) Round 3 Pick 8: B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary (B-) Round 3 Pick 9 (BUF): Barrett Jones, C, Alabama (A) Round 3 Pick 15 (MIA): Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech (C-) Round 3 Pick 16 (STL): Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia (A-) Round 3 Pick 27 (HOU): Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina ( B ) Round 3 Pick 30 (ATL): Bennie Logan, DT, LSU (A-) Round 3 Pick 31 (S.F.): Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina ( B ) Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall ( B ) Round 4 Pick 10: William Gholston, DE, Michigan State (C-) Round 4 Pick 25 (G.B.): Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina (A) Round 4 Pick 30 (ATL): EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State (A) Round 4 Pick 31 (S.F.): Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida State (A) Round 5 Pick 14 (T.B.): Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State (A) Round 5 Pick 19 (NYG): Khaled Holmes, C, Southern California (A) Round 5 Pick 26 (G.B.): Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers (A) Round 6 Pick 12 (S.F.): Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma (A) Round 6 Pick 20 (CHI): Anthony McCloud, DT, Florida State (A) Round 6 Pick 30 (ATL): Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma (A) Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston (A) Round 7 Pick 10: Luke Marquardt, OT, Azusa Pacific (A) Round 7 Pick 42 (COMP) yeah The problem I came into w/ that kinda thing is that in the 2nd and 3rd, I just ran out of value picks. I couldn't find A's anymore lol which brings down the score Edited April 9, 2013 by reo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Different approach Your score is: 4297 (Drafting Ability: A, Player Quality A, Future Draft Picks: C-) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 5 (DET): Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida (A) Round 3 Pick 21 (MINN): Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International (A) Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Jon Bostic, ILB, Florida (A) Round 4 Pick 5 (MINN): Brian Schwenke, C, California (A-) Round 4 Pick 10: Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State (A) Round 4 Pick 17 (DAL): Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin (A) Round 5 Pick 18 (DAL): Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia (A) Round 6 Pick 17 (DAL): Zac Dysert, QB, Miami (Ohio) (A) Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): Rogers Gaines, OT, Tennessee State (A) Round 7 Pick 10: Rod Sweeting, CB, Georgia Tech (A) Round 7 Pick 42 (COMP): Anthony McCloud, DT, Florida State (A) Your Future Picks: 2015 Round 1 Pick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Well the formula for the best score possible isn't taking the Chiefs and taking every single trade down offer, only making a pick when there is no offers. Of that much, we can be sure. I present the Kansas City Chiefs newest 83 draftees. Your score is: 3083 (Drafting Ability: B-, Player Quality D, Future Draft Picks: A)Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 23 (MINN): Alec Ogletree, OLB, Georgia (A) Round 3 Pick 13 (N.O.): Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois (A) Round 3 Pick 23 (WASH): A.J. Klein, ILB, Iowa State (B+) Round 3 Pick 26 (G.B.): B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary (B+) Round 3 Pick 28 (DEN): Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia (A) Round 3 Pick 29 (N.E.): Bennie Logan, DT, LSU (A-) Round 3 Pick 31 (S.F.): Brandon McGee, CB, Miami (Fla.) (A) Round 3 Pick 32 (BALT): Brian Schwenke, C, California (B+) Round 3 Pick 34 (COMP): Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M (A) Round 4 Pick 4 (PHI): D.J. Swearinger, FS, South Carolina ( Round 4 Pick 5 (MINN): Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina (B+) Round 4 Pick 8 (BUF): Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut (A) Round 4 Pick 15 (T.B.): David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado ( Round 4 Pick 22 (WASH): EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State (A) Round 4 Pick 23 (MINN): Adrian Bushell, CB, Louisville ( Round 4 Pick 24 (IND): Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State (B-) Round 4 Pick 26 (SEA): David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State ( Round 4 Pick 28 (DEN): Everett Dawkins, DT, Florida State (A-) Round 4 Pick 30 (ATL): Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State (B+) Round 4 Pick 31 (S.F.): Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida ( Round 4 Pick 32 (BALT): Johnny Adams, CB, Michigan State (B+) Round 5 Pick 2 (JAX): Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina ( Round 5 Pick 3 (PHI): Chris Faulk, OT, LSU ( Round 5 Pick 4 (DET): Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers ( Round 5 Pick 5 (SEA): Jordan Hill, DT, Penn State (A) Round 5 Pick 6 (CLE): Cory Grissom, DT, South Florida (B+) Round 5 Pick 8 (NYJ): Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech (A) Round 5 Pick 10 (BUF): Josh Boyd, DT, Mississippi State (B+) Round 5 Pick 11 (N.O.): Josh Evans, FS, Florida (A) Round 5 Pick 12 (S.D.): Khaled Holmes, C, Southern California (A) Round 5 Pick 13 (MIA): Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia (A) Round 5 Pick 14 (T.B.): Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon (B-) Round 5 Pick 17 (PITT): Chris Gragg, TE, Arkansas ( Round 5 Pick 18 (DAL): Kyle Juszczyk, FB, Harvard ( Round 5 Pick 19 (NYG): Braden Brown, OT, Brigham Young ( Round 5 Pick 20 (CHI): Anthony McCloud, DT, Florida State ( Round 5 Pick 22 (MINN): Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford (B+) Round 5 Pick 23 (CINN): Keith Pough, OLB, Howard (B+) Round 5 Pick 24 (S.F.): Bradley McDougald, FS, Kansas (B+) Round 5 Pick 25 (SEA): Brad Wing, P, LSU (B+) Round 5 Pick 26 (G.B.): Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma (A) Round 5 Pick 27 (HOU): Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma ( Round 5 Pick 28 (DEN): Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas ( Round 5 Pick 29 (WASH): Lonnie Pryor, FB, Florida State (A) Round 5 Pick 30 (ATL): Manase Foketi, OT, West Texas A&M (A-) Round 5 Pick 31 (CLE): Gilbert Pena, DT, Ole Miss (B+) Round 5 Pick 32 (BALT): Marc Anthony, CB, California (A) Round 6 Pick 2: JJ Wilcox, SS, Georgia Southern (B+) Round 6 Pick 3 (DET): John Lotulelei, OLB, UNLV (B+) Round 6 Pick 5 (CLE): Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State ( Round 6 Pick 6 (ARI): Conner Vernon, WR, Duke ( Round 6 Pick 8 (ARI): Jake Stoneburner, TE, Ohio State ( Round 6 Pick 9 (BUF): Jason Weaver, OT, Southern Mississippi ( Round 6 Pick 10 (NYJ): David Bass, DE, Missouri Western State (B+) Round 6 Pick 11 (S.D.): Micah Hyde, CB, Iowa (A) Round 6 Pick 12 (S.F.): Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida State (B+) Round 6 Pick 15 (N.O.): Ace Sanders, WR, South Carolina ( Round 6 Pick 16 (STL): Kahlid Wooten, CB, Nevada (A-) Round 6 Pick 18 (PITT): Kerwynn Williams, RB, Utah State (B+) Round 6 Pick 21 (MINN): Garrett Gilkey, OG, Chadron State (B+) Round 6 Pick 22 (CINN): Jared Smith, DT, New Hampshire (B+) Round 6 Pick 23 (WASH): Jeff Baca, OG, UCLA (B+) Round 6 Pick 24 (IND): Lerentee McCray, OLB, Florida (A-) Round 6 Pick 26 (SEA): Brandan Bishop, FS, North Carolina State (A-) Round 6 Pick 27 (HOU): Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida (A-) Round 6 Pick 28 (T.B.): Brett Maher, K, Nebraska (A-) Round 6 Pick 29 (CINN): Michael Buchanan, DE, Illinois (A) Round 6 Pick 31 (BALT): Matt Scott, QB, Arizona (B+) Round 6 Pick 32 (BALT): Michael Williams, TE, Alabama (A) Round 6 Pick 36 (COMP): Corey Fuller, WR, Virginia Tech (A-) Round 7 Pick 1: Emmett Cleary, OT, Boston College (A-) Round 7 Pick 3 (OAK): Jack Doyle, TE, Western Kentucky (A-) Round 7 Pick 7 (MINN): Abry Jones, DT, Georgia (A) Round 7 Pick 8 (SEA): Chris Jones, DT, Bowling Green (A) Round 7 Pick 11 (MIA): Eric Martin, DE, Nebraska (A) Round 7 Pick 13 (OAK): Bruce Taylor, ILB, Virginia Tech (A) Round 7 Pick 14 (SEA): Etienne Sabino, OLB, Ohio State (A) Round 7 Pick 17 (PITT): Cierre Wood, RB, Notre Dame (A) Round 7 Pick 22 (WASH): Earl Watford, OG, James Madison (A) Round 7 Pick 23 (MINN): Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn State (A) Round 7 Pick 24 (IND): Herman Lathers, OLB, Tennessee (A) Round 7 Pick 25 (MINN): Dax Swanson, CB, Sam Houston State (A) Round 7 Pick 32 (BALT): Brad Sorensen, QB, Southern Utah (A)Your Future Picks: 2014 Round 1 Pick 2014 Round 1 Pick (MINN) 2015 Round 1 Pick 2015 Round 1 Pick (MINN) I'm certain there is a diamond in the rough in there somewhere though. 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Jamalisms Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Different approach Your score is: 4297 (Drafting Ability: A, Player Quality A, Future Draft Picks: C-) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 5 (DET): Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida (A) Round 3 Pick 21 (MINN): Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International (A) Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Jon Bostic, ILB, Florida (A) Round 4 Pick 5 (MINN): Brian Schwenke, C, California (A-) Round 4 Pick 10: Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State (A) Round 4 Pick 17 (DAL): Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin (A) Round 5 Pick 18 (DAL): Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia (A) Round 6 Pick 17 (DAL): Zac Dysert, QB, Miami (Ohio) (A) Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): Rogers Gaines, OT, Tennessee State (A) Round 7 Pick 10: Rod Sweeting, CB, Georgia Tech (A) Round 7 Pick 42 (COMP): Anthony McCloud, DT, Florida State (A) Your Future Picks: 2015 Round 1 Pick How does that score better? The scoring system seems really, really weak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) How does that score better? The scoring system seems really, really weak.Because value drives it. Floyd at 5 is good value. Cyprien that late in the third is tremendous. He is an A in the mid second. My 2nd 4th-1st 6th and my 2nd 7th are all As in the round ahead at the same spot. Those of you getting Khaled Holmes in the 7th are getting a huge bump because of that. He is an A in the 5th. Edited April 9, 2013 by WG53 reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 @WG53 But you gave up a future first, right? You essentially spent two firsts on Floyd and your second and third on Cyprien...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) @WG53 But you gave up a future first, right. You essentially spent two firsts on Floyd and your second and third on Cyprien? No, I traded down 3 times from R3 pick 8 and got Cyprien. I traded my first in 2013 & 2014, R2 pick 8, my 5th to get Floyd. I made up many more picks trading down in the third. Edited April 9, 2013 by WG53 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 To approximate better... You started with the 1st round 10th, the 2nd round 8th and the future first. You got Floyd, Cyprien, two 4ths and a 6th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) To approximate better... You started with the 1st round 10th, the 2nd round 8th, R5 #9 and the future first. You got Floyd, Cyprien, two 4ths, 5th, and a 6th. And every one of those picks Cyprien included were great value. All were As at the same spot a round earlier except Schwenke. Edited April 9, 2013 by WG53 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Yeah, you swapped something in the fifth but I left it out for simplicity. You also spent a third on Cyprien and I forgot to add that. Simplified (because I'm ignoring the 5th round swap) you did: Two first round picks, a second round and a third round pick for Floyd, Cyprien, two 4ths and a 6th. That's got to be better than trade value chart, but so are a lot of these. I guess I don't see the big advantage to that over some of the others... maybe just a preference thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) I gave up my original 5th in the floyd trade. Got another 2 4ths, a 5th, a 6th trading down in the 3rd. Edited April 9, 2013 by WG53 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Yeah, you swapped something in the fifth but I left it out for simplicity. You also spent a third on Cyprien and I forgot to add that. Simplified (because I'm ignoring the 5th round swap) you did: Two first round picks, a second round and a third round pick for Floyd, Cyprien, two 4ths and a 6th.That's got to be better than trade value chart, but so are a lot of these. I guess I don't see the big advantage to that over some of the others... maybe just a preference thing.The problem with your thinking here in regards to the grading system is you are focusing on what round the pick is. The scoring is higher due to who is picked at that spot. Cyprien is a 2nd rounder picked late third. Commings is a 4th picked in the fifth. Frederick a 3rd in the mid 4th. Dysert a late 4th in the mid 6th. McCloud a mid 6th at a 7th comp. Edited April 9, 2013 by WG53 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 The real problem with my grading system is my grasp on value past round 3 maybe 4 is low. I ignore draft until after FA (about now) but then submerge. I was just looking at the first few rounds and then adding in picks obtained or lost. If there's value all the way through... no way I'd know at this point. Come Thursday I'll be much more well-read... or just ask questions. Either way, we're recording a draft podcast and I'm working overtime to catch up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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