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1 hour ago, abenjami said:

 

He's clearly the best player in the game right now but is he the GOAT?

 

I don't think so at this point.

No, I'm not saying he's the GOAT.  Last year he and I got into it over whether he was better than Judge.  I don't think he was when he was purely a DH since Judge is so good in the field and had a higher WAR.  But when he's striking out ten guys in a game and hitting three home runs?  I can't argue it anymore.

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Speaking of Barry Bonds, this is from another thread.  

@IsntLifeFunny, I meant to circle back to this thread the other day when Ohtani had his three homer, 10 K game.  He's clearly the best player in the game.  I can't argue it anymore.

Most walks in a season all time:   2004 Barry Bonds (232 walks, 120 of which were intentional) 2002 Barry Bonds (198 walks) 2001 Barry Bonds (177 walks) 1923 Babe Ruth (170 wa

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Speaking of Barry Bonds, this is from another thread.

 

On 3/29/2025 at 11:00 AM, CaliTitan3518 said:

Pick any two players in the baseball hall of fame. Barry Bonds has more mvp awards than both of them combined. 

 

From 2001-2004 39.5% of all Barry Bonds at bats ended in a walk or a home run. He also reached base in 94% of his games played.

 

If you turned every home run Bonds hit into an out his career on base % would be .384. the same as Alex Rodriguez's. 

 

In 2004 Bonds reached base safely 376 times in 373 at bats. 

 

If you stripped Bonds of all of his stats from his 7 MVP seasons, he woud still have 440 homers, 359 stolen bases which no other player has.

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16 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

GOAT 

Ohtani now tied Bonds (and a few others) for the most intentional walks in a game with 4.......

 

Only difference Bonds was a 9 inning regular season game whereas Ohtani's was an 18 inning World Series game. Bonds also got intentionally walked 4 times in a game 4 times in that season. 

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Most walks in a season all time:

 

2004 Barry Bonds (232 walks, 120 of which were intentional)

2002 Barry Bonds (198 walks)

2001 Barry Bonds (177 walks)

1923 Babe Ruth (170 walks)

 

What is also crazy is that he still hit 45+ home runs all those seasons when he got the least opportunities to actually see a pitch.

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9 hours ago, abenjami said:

Most walks in a season all time:

 

2004 Barry Bonds (232 walks, 120 of which were intentional)

2002 Barry Bonds (198 walks)

2001 Barry Bonds (177 walks)

1923 Babe Ruth (170 walks)

 

What is also crazy is that he still hit 45+ home runs all those seasons when he got the least opportunities to actually see a pitch.

That’s my favorite part.  He’d get like one hittable pitch and blast it 400 ft.  He also did this in a pitcher’s ballpark too in SF.

 

Ohtani isn’t a pimple on Bonds ass in terms of overall player.  Bonds could steal bases as well. He had a 30hr 50 SB season in 90 as well.

 

And multiple gold gloves.  In his last year in the league 2007 and at age 42 he lead the league in walks (132 ) and OBP at .480

 

Bonds has 688 career intentional walks .  Second place is Albert Pujols at 316.  The guy with the most intentional walks who is still currently playing is Freddie Freeman, who is 36 yrs old, and he has a paltry total of 142.

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On 10/25/2025 at 10:35 PM, CaliTitan3518 said:

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Does Judge get enough credit for how good he is?

 

Judge is incredible. He really doesn't get enough credit. The thing is, he absolutely has a legacy blocker in his way. He could hit 100 HRs in a season and it won't matter unless he wins one as a Yankee. Winning a series as a Yankee would absolutely boost his legacy--I am just not sure it happens with Yankee killer Hal on board. I like Judge enough I sort of found myself wanting him to get one. 

 

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