BudsOilers Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Just now, japan said: Davis was an injury problem this season as he has been his whole career. He only played in 9 games. Julio for Davis is almost a wash... Again - I have no problem with not paying Davis. Same with Conklin and Smith. It was the inability to replace their production that's the issue. To pretend Jones was as good as Davis 2020 is just a flat out lie and he cost a lot more and will again in 2022. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, oldschool said: Landry was a jag before the Titans spent big money on Dupree and signed Autry who was fantastic all year. Plus Simmons had his best year. You have to wonder if Landry simply benefitted from playing alongside them. I'd offer him a similar deal to Dupree which was below market value due to his knee injury. I'm not paying much more than that. I went back and watched some of his snaps from 2020. 3 of his 5.5 sacks came from three DL sets only rushing 3. All 3 he flew off the ball and destroyed the tackle. His stats were artificially lowered because of the scheme in 2020. He would have been a 10+ sack guy if they ran the same rush scheme as last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted February 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 This is part of not all of a segment on the Titans offseason from today on the NFLN, Giardi mentions should he make free agency Landry will have plenty of suitors lined up to sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 Let him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/16/2022 at 2:36 PM, BudsOilers said: Again - I have no problem with not paying Davis. Same with Conklin and Smith. It was the inability to replace their production that's the issue. To pretend Jones was as good as Davis 2020 is just a flat out lie and he cost a lot more and will again in 2022. You mean the one season where Davis played in more than half of the games? I think letting Reynolds walk mid-season definitely hurt as he is a pretty good WR who got in the doghouse for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted February 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 "Seven of Landry's 12 sacks came on third down, which was the third-highest among all pass rushers." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 I get the idea that people are hesitant about Landry being a product of the system but when has Dupree ever lit it up without significant help in his D-line? Dupree has been in the league since 2015 and didn't have more than 6 sacks until 2019 and that was on a DL that had TJ Watt and Cam Hayward for 2 years. Why is everyone so sure that Dupree isn't just as big a product of the system as Landry if not bigger since Landry had a 9 sack season without much help? When did we decide that Dupree is clearly in a different stratosphere than Landry? I can definitely see a scenario where we let Landry go, don't adequately replace him and the pass rush suffers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: I get the idea that people are hesitant about Landry being a product of the system but when has Dupree ever lit it up without significant help in his D-line? Dupree has been in the league since 2015 and didn't have more than 6 sacks until 2019 and that was on a DL that had TJ Watt and Cam Hayward for 2 years. Why is everyone so sure that Dupree isn't just as big a product of the system as Landry if not bigger since Landry had a 9 sack season without much help? When did we decide that Dupree is clearly in a different stratosphere than Landry? I can definitely see a scenario where we let Landry go, don't adequately replace him and the pass rush suffers. Probably since when Dupree is not in games in Pittsburgh and Tennessee the line drastically suffers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted February 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, japan said: Probably since when Dupree is not in games in Pittsburgh and Tennessee the line drastically suffers? And how would the reverse apply if Dupree wasn't surrounded with guys like TJ Watt, Cameron Heyward, Stephon Tuitt at the Steelers and Jefferey Simmons, Harold Landry, Denico Autry at the Titans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Landry would be in the same system with the same players around him in 2022 as he was last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: And how would the reverse apply if Dupree wasn't surrounded with guys like TJ Watt, Cameron Heyward, Stephon Tuitt at the Steelers and Jefferey Simmons, Harold Landry, Denico Autry at the Titans. Safe to say Landry benefitted a ton from Dupree and Autrey last season. Landry was just known as an ironman up until last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Mythos27 said: I can definitely see a scenario where we let Landry go, don't adequately replace him and the pass rush suffers. I really don't want this to happen. So they just have to find a way to pay him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, japan said: Probably since when Dupree is not in games in Pittsburgh and Tennessee the line drastically suffers? TJ Watt just put up a DPOY performance without Bud Dupree. Pittsburgh led the league in sacks this past season with 55, that's 12 more than us. Landry had a 9 sack season his second year, long before Bud. There is more evidence that Bud benefits from the linemen around him than the other way around... I could understand some preferring Bud but IMO to act as though there is some huge chasm is unwarranted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Mythos27 said: TJ Watt just put up a DPOY performance without Bud Dupree. Pittsburgh led the league in sacks this past season with 55, that's 12 more than us. Landry had a 9 sack season his second year, long before Bud. There is more evidence that Bud benefits from the linemen around him than the other way around... I could understand some preferring Bud but IMO to act as though there is some huge chasm is unwarranted. Look, I would like to see them keep Landry but I question having every pass rusher on an elevated contract. But the fact that almost all of Landry's sacks came on schemed plays does say a lot. The guy has a great motor and seems injury immune, but he's not affecting games from the edge one on one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 Just now, japan said: Look, I would like to see them keep Landry but I question having every pass rusher on an elevated contract. But the fact that almost all of Landry's sacks came on schemed plays does say a lot. The guy has a great motor and seems injury immune, but he's not affecting games from the edge one on one. I don't have an issue with apprehension towards resigning Landry. I wanted to take Jaelen Phillips in last year's draft because I didn't see us keeping Landry. My issue is acting like Bud Dupree is somehow on a whole other level than Landry despite there being no evidence to support that. That's without mentioning that Landry is younger and has less of an injury history. I do agree that he had a lot of sacks that were on twists and games, but he also had a lot of sacks where he straight up won quickly on the edge and he's produced sacks in other seasons without being schemed up as much as he was this past season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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