Lantern Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 It's too late this year. It ain't happening. We might get fortunate and "out offense", Indy, Miami, or the Browns, but in the second round the Chiefs are going to carve us up. We just have zero QB pressure, even against horrible OL'S. I am still baffled how bad we screwed this up last offseason....I know we tried. Clowney, Beasley.... So we are probably drafting in the mid to late 20's. Every single elite college pass rusher will be gone. What do you do if you are JR? Trade a high pick or two for an elite pass rusher? Trade up in the draft? Try to find a reclamation project in free agency? Hope we get lucky and a pass rusher falls to us in round one? Let other players walk and go all in on a free agent pass rusher? For me I trade every draft pick we have to get to get someone with elite pass rush skills. We are one elite pass rusher away from being a legit Super Bowl contender. If we trade our draft and keep Butler. We would have Butler, Adoree, Fulton, and hopefully resign King. That will suffice if we get a monster pass rusher to add with Landry. The Colts transformed their defense with one trade. imagine if we had traded our first last year for Campbell? Instead of getting a worthless project we would have gotten epic production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinne1 Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 If your front guys aren't getting pressure, the only choice you have is to blitz often. To successfully blitz you must come when they don't expect it and from where they don't expect it. When that happens you have to prepare to give up huge chunk plays. On the other hand we are giving up huge chunk plays now so what would it hurt? The only choice we have in the short term is to play man on the receivers and send the house (if we want to choose to have QB pressure, that is.) PS. I've thought about this for years and I don't understand why teams don't put relatively smaller guys at the DE position that are SUPER QUICK with amazing juke moves and send two or three of those type guys every pass play. The odds of at least one of them getting to the QB quickly is high. The offense would be forced to commit additional blockers which would then would ease the attack down field. I'm not sure why that is not an approach more used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1st round draft pick, 2nd round draft pick, and 3rd round draft pick... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Change of personnel won't make a tonne of difference unless there is significant changes on the defensive coaching staff and scheme, have seen a large enough sample size of Vrabel/Bowen led defenses at the Texans/Titans to know what we are seeing this year is normal not an exception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 It's going to be the biggest question mark of the off-season. I don't give them nearly as much flack this year as most posters on the board who's mindsets are clearly result oriented over vision oriented. What more could they have done to address it other than signing Beasley and Clowney? Yeah it didn't pan out as planned but A for effort. As for not attempting to sign a legit DC to replace Pees and letting go of key positional coaches on the defense side of things, that was unexcusable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantern Posted December 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 58 minutes ago, spinne1 said: If your front guys aren't getting pressure, the only choice you have is to blitz often. To successfully blitz you must come when they don't expect it and from where they don't expect it. When that happens you have to prepare to give up huge chunk plays. On the other hand we are giving up huge chunk plays now so what would it hurt? The only choice we have in the short term is to play man on the receivers and send the house (if we want to choose to have QB pressure, that is.) PS. I've thought about this for years and I don't understand why teams don't put relatively smaller guys at the DE position that are SUPER QUICK with amazing juke moves and send two or three of those type guys every pass play. The odds of at least one of them getting to the QB quickly is high. The offense would be forced to commit additional blockers which would then would ease the attack down field. I'm not sure why that is not an approach more used. The problem with this is that we have sent the house often, but the offenses tend to pick up our blitzars easily, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT9 Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Convince the Browns FO to give us Myles Garrett. Winning too many games goes against the Brown's organization goals. They will clean house. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Starkiller said: 1st round draft pick, 2nd round draft pick, and 3rd round draft pick... Yea, you have to draft your way out of the problem and do it by committee. Let's just hope the team isn't forced to use an early pick on an OT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 I’m not sure what I would do at this stage, but I kind of think they will re-sign Clowney and use a high draft pick. But I don’t think this will ever be a high pressure scheme as long as Vrabel is HC. The key to improvement with this defensive philosophy is improving the corner group and playing more man coverage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 The best way to fix the pass rush is to give Henry 40 plus runs control the clock and keep the defense off the field. The return of Jackson will help the front. The front seven just sucks. They cannot get off the field on third downs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, ctm said: Yea, you have to draft your way out of the problem and do it by committee. Let's just hope the team isn't forced to use an early pick on an OT. Exactly! Just like how Floyd Reese solved our long-running wide receiver problem......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, tgo said: Exactly! Just like how Floyd Reese solved our long-running wide receiver problem......... ...or we could make the same mistake with Clowney all over again in 2021. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, ctm said: ...or we could make the same mistake with Clowney all over again in 2021. I'm just not a fan of volume drafting. I'd combine a free agent with a high draft pick to go along with Roberson in rotation. As far as Clowney, I wouldn't re-sign him if it were me I don't think. But I think they well may do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, tgo said: I'm just not a fan of volume drafting. I'd combine a free agent with a high draft pick to go along with Roberson in rotation. As far as Clowney, I wouldn't re-sign him if it were me I don't think. But I think they well may do it. Reese drafted multiple WRs in one year. The Titans can use additional pass rushers at different positions.....DL and OLB. Reese is a false analogy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, ctm said: Reese drafted multiple WRs in one year. The Titans can use additional pass rushers at different positions.....DL and OLB. Reese is a false analogy. Well I definitely agree we should draft multiple front 7 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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