Starkiller Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Rolltide said: They do not have a missile that can hit us. We need to stop treating them like a world power. They have no navy, no air force and a poorly fed and supplied army. Their infrastructure could be ruined in one day of bombing. Amazing China seems to respect Trump more than the last 3-4 presidents. We know conclusively that they have developed missiles that can reach the east coast of the US. We know they have nuclear weapons that could be mounted on those missiles. That’s enough. And any war means they could decimate Seoul and kill millions. But perhaps you don’t care about people dying... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Rolltide said: It's working. Somebody finally standing up to these assholes is actually working. About time. http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-threats-north-korea-might-work-2017-10 50% of the north Korean army would defect in a New York minute if they knew they would not be shot. We could disable most of their energy and communications with 24 hours of bombing. You said they are a third world country so why are you afraid? 1 hour ago, ctm said: Maybe because it appears that NK has a nuclear weapon that can hit the US. Furthermore, the more you ratchet up tensions, the more likely a miscalculation occurs by one of the parties. Honestly more worried for South Koreans. NK could easily send a nuke there if they have one. It's not about whether or not the US would win. It's about how many will die in the process. And there's the humanitarian crisis afterwards. Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, reo said: Honestly more worried for South Koreans. NK could easily send a nuke there if they have one. It's not about whether or not the US would win. It's about how many will die in the process. And there's the humanitarian crisis afterwards. both/and It's another consideration. Regardless, increasing tensions via twitter is not a good thing. There's a greater chance one side goes pre-emptive because they fear the other side is about to launch. This is elementary nuclear strategy. reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, ctm said: both/and It's another consideration. We'd decimate their military but then it'd turn into another insurgency but with nukes as NK has been fed lies about the US for decades and we'd be an invading army. The chances of a nuke or at least a dirty bomb being smuggled into the US would increase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted January 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Every time the US dismantles another countries nuke program, they invade soon after. Kim Jung Whatever the fuck is only doing what he has to to survive. They are not a threat to the US. They are not going to attack the US. He is not an idiot. IsntLifeFunny, and reo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, 'Nator said: Every time the US dismantles another countries nuke program, they invade soon after. Kim Jung Whatever the fuck is only doing what he has to to survive. They are not a threat to the US. They are not going to attack the US. He is not an idiot. The real fear is that Trump says "fuck it" and bombs them but honestly Trump is a blow hard that talks a lot. He's using nukes the same way he uses law suits... as a threat but never actually does it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlers Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Starkiller said: We know conclusively that they have developed missiles that can reach the east coast of the US. We know they have nuclear weapons that could be mounted on those missiles. That’s enough. And any war means they could decimate Seoul and kill millions. But perhaps you don’t care about people dying... He(Rolltide) doesn't care about South Koreans; they're not Americans. begooode, and reo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 hours ago, reo said: Honestly more worried for South Koreans. NK could easily send a nuke there if they have one. It's not about whether or not the US would win. It's about how many will die in the process. And there's the humanitarian crisis afterwards. This has always been the issue, but simplistic chest-beating wannabes keep forgetting this. *Damn, nobody knew world leadership was this complicated (completely cedes Pacific leadership to China, while kicking rocks in frustration)* reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, earlers said: He(Rolltide) doesn't care about South Koreans; they're not Americans. You make it sound like he cares about other Americans... reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans_Win_Again Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, Rolltide said: They do not have a missile that can hit us. We need to stop treating them like a world power. They have no navy, no air force and a poorly fed and supplied army. Their infrastructure could be ruined in one day of bombing. Amazing China seems to respect Trump more than the last 3-4 presidents. Nobody thinks we can't annihilate their army. The issue is that they've got so much artillery and potentially chemical/nuclear weapons pointed at Seoul it would only take them a couple hours to kill a hundred thousand South Koreans. Edited January 9, 2018 by Titans_Win_Again reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justafan Posted January 9, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 37,500 including Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines vs. 2 million. Oh, and all their families, for the most part, are still there too though they have been talking about bringing them home. Yes, we would win but we would suffer a terrible cost, and so would the South Koreans, before we could get enough assets in the area to do so. People act like our military is this magic juggernaut that can just swat away any threat like it's a fly. We had essentially a year to prepare the invasion of Iraq and it still took two weeks to topple. How much damage could North Korea do in two weeks? If we thought we could take out all their nukes without them getting one off or launching something just as bad into Seoul, don't you think we would have done that already? I swear, sometimes I think conservatives want to watch the world burn. You fuckers go spend three years of your life in places like Afghanistan and Iraq and tell me if that sort of attitude to the world has been worth it. Please, go look your families in the eyes and tell them that you're going to go away for the next 15-18 months because it's easier to push the red button than it is to actually engage in negotiations. Otherwise, please feel free to STFU. We tried your way and it was a COMPLETE DISASTER. IsntLifeFunny, reo, Starkiller, and 2 others 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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