No1TitansFan Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 16 hours ago, h4t said: It was always the offset language that caused the Titans to drag their feet in signing players. This was kind of stupid in my opinion. It meant that if we released the player and he signed with someone else, we could subtract what we owed them by the amount the other team was paying them. How many times has that happened to a high draft pick? It would be very rare. If the player was good enough to be signed by another team, we would be stupid to release him anyway. Offset language was the league standard for years and was included in all contracts; it was the somewhat greedy idea of some agents to negotiate to have it excluded so that if there clients were inept enough to get released they could actually make more money than was included in the original contract by getting some money from the second team and the remnants of what they were owed from the first. The TItans and other teams that held against it were simply trying to hold the line on what they felt was a fair concept that they should not be on the hook for a player making more money in that final year than they were originally contracted for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 There's not much to distinguish agents on rookie contracts except for offset language and bonus deferrals. Problem comes when the player selected in the previous year's draft slot secured a player friendly deal and the agent has to complete against that. If he/she fails the other agents will gain a strong marketing chip to use when recruiting the next year's rookies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 10 hours ago, Oiler FANatic said: If he can be just as good as Adam Jones without all the off the field bullshit, they might have made a steal at #18. I get that this is hype season but why did he drop? Because he's pretty small and likely won't be able to physically beat/outmuscle bigger receivers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Going Capt Obvious here, but imo Adoree's physicality in coverage, footwork and hand usage will be under scrutiny until he proves otherwise. Pac was a rough you up, run / jump with you thug with zero conscious or memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 55 minutes ago, Soxcat said: Actually he was picked earlier than most predicted. His track record as a CB isn't on par with some of the other guys. For example as a pure CB White has the more proven track record as does Conley. I'd say he has Pac Man upside as a CB with similar return skills. STs was obviously a place JRob wanted to upgrade. drop was the wrong word, I know he was projected to go late 1st round. I'm just saying that it's not like anything new has been revealed about his game. If people here are expecting him to be PacMan based on what we have heard during hypeseason, he would have gone much higher. I'm just curious besides us reading homer articles what changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAEA12 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 15 hours ago, Ricky said: "Adoree' is just what we thought he would be. Tremendously gifted." -DC Dick LeBeau on his new cornerback. Link to quote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IsntLifeFunny Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 11 hours ago, No1TitansFan said: Offset language was the league standard for years and was included in all contracts; it was the somewhat greedy idea of some agents to negotiate to have it excluded so that if there clients were inept enough to get released they could actually make more money than was included in the original contract by getting some money from the second team and the remnants of what they were owed from the first. The TItans and other teams that held against it were simply trying to hold the line on what they felt was a fair concept that they should not be on the hook for a player making more money in that final year than they were originally contracted for. They were being cheap assholes. Nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 6 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: They were being cheap assholes. Nothing more. Whatever money was being saved was negligible at best. If you're having to frequently cut 1st round picks for any reason that having to stand firm on offset language is a serious concern, then you've got bigger issues to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted May 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Stranger said: Whatever money was being saved was negligible at best. If you're having to frequently cut 1st round picks for any reason that having to stand firm on offset language is a serious concern, then you've got bigger issues to worry about. And they did have bigger issues to worry about. There is only one 1st round pick from the previous 5 drafts before Taylor Lewan that is still with the team. Derrick Morgan. The other 4? Chance Warmack... an Eagle. Kendall Wright... a Bear. Kenny Britt... a RamBrown. Jake Locker... used athletic equipment salesman or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted May 27, 2017 Report Share Posted May 27, 2017 On 5/25/2017 at 0:56 PM, wiscotitansfan said: drop was the wrong word, I know he was projected to go late 1st round. I'm just saying that it's not like anything new has been revealed about his game. If people here are expecting him to be PacMan based on what we have heard during hypeseason, he would have gone much higher. I'm just curious besides us reading homer articles what changed. From what I gathered draft weekend, his biggest flaw was not having a ton of experience as a CB. I think he only had one year of full-time CB work, so he is a bit "raw." He has a shit ton of upside, though. THat's what I like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiler FANatic Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 On 5/27/2017 at 8:58 AM, StephenIsLegend said: I think he only had one year of full-time CB work, so he is a bit "raw." He has a shit ton of upside, though. That's what I like. Hopefully he won't have to start right away, assuming Sims wins the job that shouldn't be a problem. And if they are going to use Searcy in certain nickel packages, then Jackson should split time with him there at NB. So he should be playing part-time at nickelback and also at punt returner and/or kick returner as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, Oiler FANatic said: Hopefully he won't have to start right away, assuming Sims wins the job that shouldn't be a problem. And if they are going to use Searcy in certain nickel packages, then Jackson should split time with him there at NB. So he should be playing part-time at nickelback and also at punt returner and/or kick returner as well. Given the limited amount of reps available in TC and the limited number of practices due to the new CBA, I have no problem if they start him and he has to take a few lumps in the process; you just not learning all that much sitting on the bench these days. Makes it all the much harder on the guys at the bottom of the roster; also why JRob and a lot of other GMs are putting more of an emphasis on smarter guys as they can learn and improve more in the classroom and film sessions for which there are far fewer restrictions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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