Mythos27 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Little Earl said: This is now the third time in a short period that the president's secret and private discussions with a world leader have been leaked to the WaPo. Such leaks are illegal, undermine the country and hinders the Presidents ability to maintain global relationships. All to feed into the bullshit frenzy of the left. I bet that if you were working right next to Trump and saw half the inane shit he does you'd be leaking too. Many of these leaks are decent people who are scared shitless that the most powerful man in the word is a buffoon who refuses to listen to reason and has the impulse control of a 4 year old. They're afraid he's eventually going to make a mistake that seriously hurts the country. These aren't Obama's people leaking, they're people who want to see Trump succeed. The fact that they have no real animus towards the president and still feel the need to leak should concern you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Little Earl said: This is now the third time in a short period that the president's secret and private discussions with a world leader have been leaked to the WaPo. Such leaks are illegal, undermine the country and hinders the Presidents ability to maintain global relationships. All to feed into the bullshit frenzy of the left. Erick Erickson: “You can call these sources disloyal, traitors, or whatever you want,” he added. “But please ask yourself a question — if the President, through inexperience and ignorance, is jeopardizing our national security and will not take advice or corrective action, what other means are available to get the President to listen and recognize the error of his ways?” ... “I am told that what the President did is actually far worse than what is being reported,” Erickson said. “The President does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources. He also does not seem to appreciate that his loose lips can get valuable assets in the field killed.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/erick-erickson-real-problem-trump-172232457.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 No one has yet to confirm that?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, ben4titans said: It is fake in both content and theme. You can't tell between fake and real anymore. Fake is just a word you use when you don't want the news you're hearing to be true. Sources from all over the world are confirming it. Trump himself doesn't deny it and instead pivots to saying it was his legal right to do it (it was). I started out a bit skeptical of the whole thing but the preponderance of the evidence is pretty overwhelming. If a tape came out today of Trump saying everything he's accused of and more, you'd argue to the death that it's doctored or something. You've gone over the edge. You don't know what's true anymore. I'm not sure if you even believe in the concept of truth and whether truth can actually be known. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, ben4titans said: Ohh geez. Sessions didn't perjure himself. You guys are so pathetic. He lied by omission.Still a lie. It was an easily verifiable lie too. You think he just removed himself for the fun of it? Where do you get your news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakingeek Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 The source of the classified intel information on ISIS was Israel. They have the ability to operate under a cover in the middle east, that we do not. By leaking this classified information to the Russians, Trump has jeopardized Israel's sources as well as jeopardized future intel info from Israel. Israel knows that information can easily get from Russia to Iran. The classified info that Trump leaked to the Russians CAN and likely WILL affect our national security AND our relationship with Israel. Israel didn't trust Trump to begin with and will be far less likely to pass intelligence pertaining to the US onto to us because of Trump's indiscretions. Why anyone would defend that action is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, ben4titans said: I have seen the "evidence". It is bullshit. There is more evidence showing a Hillary/Podesta connection to Russia vs Trump. You say everything is bullshit. You don't know what real evidence even is. Trump himself isn't pushing back against the idea that he disclosed classified information to the Russians.He's not denying it but instead looking to justify it. Why do you even have to deny something he tacitly admits to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, ben4titans said: He didn't lie by any metric. He removed himself because he was tied to the campaign and would be inappropriate for him to preside over any investigation. So why did he only recuse himself after the lie was exposed? He had no issue with the conflict of interest before this, despite many saying it was indeed inappropriate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: He lied by omission.Still a lie. It was an easily verifiable lie too. You think he just removed himself for the fun of it? Where do you get your news? There is a huge difference. Bill Clinton committed perjury and was disbarred. Sessions is not in trouble nor will he because he did not break the law. You want to believe Sessions lied, but it is not a proven fact. It is a proven fact that Clinton perjured himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 hours ago, code said: 35% of the country refuse to acknowledge that Trump is incompetent at best, a pathological liar at worst. All politicians lie. Trump does it at a 70+% clip. That, in his own words, is HUGE. But forget that you can't trust a single word he says. Just follow his actions. What if Obama had passed along intelligence information to the Russians for 'humanitarian' purposes? What if his top advisors had repeatedly met with Russian agents throughout the election cycle? What if he had refused to share his birth certificate let alone his tax returns? What if he was forced to fired his NSA director after 60 days because of connections to middle eastern leaders? What if he had played golf every weekend of his presidency? What if he had embarrassed the country with Australian, Canadian and German heads of state? What if he Michelle had stayed in Chicago and she had to have a Secret Service detail lock down her residence at an outlandish cost to US taxpayer? What if Obama had passed tax reform that would only benefit the poor and disproporationatel African American communities regressively punishing the top 1% of earners, predominantly WASP? What if he had signed Executive Orders at the staggering rate that our current President has done? What if he had alienated the FBI, CIA, and NSA? What if he had fired the head of the FBI by sending his best friends brother to deliver a your fired notice by memo? What if he had been taping every conversation in the oval office? What if he had selectively chosen only to speak to MSNBC ignoring all other 'fake' news organizations? What if he had discussed secrets of state at the local watering hole while hosting a foreign head of state? What more do you need to see people?!?!? This is ineptitude of the highest order. A comedy of errors wouldn't have included as many errors. Every person he touches he tarnishes. Everything he does is half-baked, half-truth, 100% self ego gratification. HRC isn't the President. Nor will she ever be. Mike Pence will become our next President. So, conservative friends. Do yourself a favor. Do the country a favor. Do your party a favor. Impeach his under qualified ass and make Mike Pence our President. Because while I may not agree with Pence policies, I am 100% confident that he will act in the best interests of the United States. Conservatives, can you honestly say that Donald Trump is acting in the best interest of the country at this point in time? Actually I see this as constructive criticism of the Democrats. If it were in reverse, Republicans would be going crazy about it. Anyone of those single points would have set Republicans off and it would have been all they would discuss until something was done about. Even if they were in the minority in the House and Senate, they likely would be trying to shut down both until something was done.......and they would likely get their way on it. Why are the Democrats not doing that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NashvilleNinja Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 This thread: "Trump reveals highly classified info to Russian official" "Turns out it may not have been true..." "Yeah, I did it." "Trump didn't know wtf he was sharing." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
code Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 So the President tells Russia that Israel had a plant in a specific town in Syria that captured this information and you guys are imaging that he is doing his job? Ben, your head is so far up your 'ideology' that you can't admit the truth. EVERYTHING I said was accurate. In fact, you can find a Trump tweet that will collaborate it all. This isn't a conservative v liberal issue. This is competency. This is the American constitution. This is the office of the Presidency and how actions are to be conducted within it. NEVER in modern history has one man failed so miserably in such a short time. Impeach Trump. You get Pence. He is a real conservative. He knows how to manage a government. He is competent. Believe me, we liberals will hate him. But at least he is capable of handling the position. The current office holder can not uphold the oath of office. There is only one choice to be made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 43 minutes ago, Titans279 said: It really is the only believable defense. He didn't even know enough to know how badly he was fucking up. We're pretty fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, code said: So the President tells Russia that Israel had a plant in a specific town in Syria that captured this information and you guys are imaging that he is doing his job? Ben, your head is so far up your 'ideology' that you can't admit the truth. EVERYTHING I said was accurate. In fact, you can find a Trump tweet that will collaborate it all. This isn't a conservative v liberal issue. This is competency. This is the American constitution. This is the office of the Presidency and how actions are to be conducted within it. NEVER in modern history has one man failed so miserably in such a short time. Impeach Trump. You get Pence. He is a real conservative. He knows how to manage a government. He is competent. Believe me, we liberals will hate him. But at least he is capable of handling the position. The current office holder can not uphold the oath of office. There is only one choice to be made. It is always a conservative vs liberal issue. Trump is as good a hypothetical of blind allegiance as you could realistically propose for consideration, and it's actually happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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