NashvilleNinja Posted March 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 I don't know if people can tell how rough it is from this video, but I'd say it has gotten worse since this video was made. wiscotitansfan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 LOL, that's idiotic at best for anyone to possibly justify any reason to not start reconstruction ASAP NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 On 3/15/2017 at 8:24 PM, patsplat said: Urban highways are always in terrible condition because you can't shut them down. I don't know if you've done road trips and to where but Urban highways are nowhere near close to atrocious as that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 56 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: LOL, that's idiotic at best for anyone to possibly justify any reason to not start reconstruction ASAP He shut the video off early, but it's pretty much like that the entire 7 miles. And it has gotten worse since then. Governor Haslam is proposing a 7 cent tax hike to pay for new transportation costs. The state apparently has a law regarding not using sales tax funds to pay for transportation costs, but I don't understand why they can't find another source to pull funding from to get the money needed to pay for stuff like this, even if they pull it from sales taxes. Especially since they apparently are too lazy to raise their asses up off that huge surplus of funds they're sitting on right now. Edited March 24, 2017 by NashvilleNinja Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 I was reading about how states with no income tax find ways through sales tax to compensate and have to find many other sacrifices too. It shouldn't be that complicated but I'm sure that has a lot to do with it... Florida has tollways so not sure how other states with no income tax deal with infrastructure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 13 hours ago, wiscotitansfan said: I don't know if you've done road trips and to where but Urban highways are nowhere near close to atrocious as that It looks like 440 is a concrete road patched with asphalt. Those are always pretty bumpy in my experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 @wtenn as a planner in Tennessee do you have any thoughts on the condition of 440? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtenn Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 6 hours ago, patsplat said: @wtenn as a planner in Tennessee do you have any thoughts on the condition of 440? Oh, I don't know. I am not on the road that often. I guess it is a shame they built 840 so far out that it apparently doesn't do much in the way of relieving 440 congestion. Oh, and I have heard several people on the job theorize that TDOT is kind of letting all of the roads go a bit so the people can really see the need for improvements and thus support the gas tax increase. Starkiller, and pat 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 hour ago, wtenn said: Oh, I don't know. I am not on the road that often. I guess it is a shame they built 840 so far out that it apparently doesn't do much in the way of relieving 440 congestion. Oh, and I have heard several people on the job theorize that TDOT is kind of letting all of the roads go a bit so the people can really see the need for improvements and thus support the gas tax increase. How nice of them to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) TN is unique in that gas tax proceeds are earmarked for the TDOT budget and can't be used for anything else. In the past it went up on a fairly regular basis and TN had some of the highest rated roads compared to other states and since fuel prices were also on a constant rise the increases weren't really noticeable and it was a bipartisan policy embraced by both sides that worked well. When the far right took over the state legislature for better or worse the gas tax has been pretty much frozen, so now it has gotten to the point where instead of an abundance of funds they are getting to the point where they are having some difficulty funding everything they want to do. I don't doubt the theory about them maybe letting some roads get worse; they are used to having a sweetheart system of an ever increasing source of funding that they don't have to share with anyone else. Edited April 10, 2017 by No1TitansFan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 If tdot doesn't have the $ are they really the ones "letting the roads get worse" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Ok, you greedy fucks. You got your tax hike. Fix the god damn roads. wiscotitansfan, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: Ok, you greedy fucks. You got your tax hike. Fix the god damn roads. Not sure how much of a tax hike it was in the end. The bill also lowered taxes on groceries and the Hall tax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolfolksunclesuncle Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 4 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: Ok, you greedy fucks. You got your tax hike. Fix the god damn roads. LOL....Governor Haslam's popping some expensive champagne tonight! That dude got everyone to vote for something that directly puts a shit-ton of cash in his and his gas station buddy's pockets by telling you that it'll fix roads and infrastructure. Yes, I realize that his gas stations do not get to directly keep the money paid for the gas tax....that's why he's laughing his ass off. The brilliance in him getting this gas tax passed is strictly through investments. Whatever the gas tax percentage ends up being will be extra temporary income that he can earn interest on. So, if the gas tax is 6%, then that's an extra 6% that he can invest, earn interest on, and then pay the state the tax due. This leaves the interest earned on the temporary money as straight profit. He totally cares about the roads (that lead to his gas stations), I promise! NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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