socaljake Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 5 hours ago, titanruss said: Robiskie needs to apologize to us for not letting marcus play in a real offense the first 4 games of the year. I'm glad this shit is coming together nicely now... though there's still like 2-3 plays a game that are head scratchers or we just dont have the personnel to run. get over yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 16 minutes ago, socaltitan said: get over yourself He's trying not to look stupid for hating the staff before it implemented a pretty sane offensive plan - like a certain other poster who completely got caught up in his own feelings. So now the new narrative is they were doing things completely differently before seeing things the "right" way. Which, outside of standard OC tweaks week-to-week, hasn't happened. The Titans followed the same gameplan they've been following since Week 1. We are just better at running it. We're a run first play action offense who pass efficiently not frequently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socaljake Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 It's not crazy to think an offense can get better when you start the season with a new OC, a lot of new coaches on the offensive side, two new RB, two new starting WR +getting Wright back from injury, 3 new starting OL, a 2nd year QB who was still a rookie in terms of games started. That's a lot of moving parts that can take time to gel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, socaltitan said: It's not crazy to think an offense can get better when you start the season with a new OC, a lot of new coaches on the offensive side, two new RB, two new starting WR +getting Wright back from injury, 3 new starting OL, a 2nd year QB who was still a rookie in terms of games started. That's a lot of moving parts that can take time to gel. Not only was he new, the last time he called plays Bo Jackson was his RB. He needed an adjustment period as well. The best thing about it is I doubt he will leave for head coaching job like some young up and coming hot shot might have done had we hired him. (Although, Deion Sanders was pumping him up as a Head coaching candidate on NFL network final highlight show last night.) We have a really good chance to build some continuity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Soxcat said: Why are people so critical of the Titans coaches and even Mariota? Rodgers, arguably one of the best looked like dog crap on a number throws. There were plenty of plays on the GB side that didn't look all that great either. So I guess absolute perfection now is our standard? Mariota is on a perfect course to be a real stud and carry this franchise for a long time. He just needs to not make so many mistakes but you saw improvement. Remember, the coaches don't block, pass, or run routes. So IMO this is as much about the players implementing the offense the way it is designed. When they do that, including Mariota, it is virtually unstoppable with our OL and skill players. Now imagine if we had a Julio Jones or Amari Cooper. Now just consider Grimm as OL coach and the difference there (give Mularkey credit for bringing these guys in). We have a C playing OG, a FA OG and a backup LT playing out there and Mariota isn't even getting touched not to mention our RT is a rookie. Holy crap, compare that to just a year ago. We actually have two OGs on the bench that are as good as the starters right now (Spain and Tretola) and you saw what Kelly did. That friends is talent and coaching working together very well. The offense changed. It was a terrible plan to start the season and for that robiskie gets zero credit. He does get credit for changing and evolving the offense to something thats pretty impressive. Mariota wasn't comfortable and robiskie gets credit for changing the offense to make him so. He doesn't deserve an apology for the crap he put out there early... It's simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, socaltitan said: get over yourself I will when your mom gets over me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 The offense, especially Mariota were making too many mistakes early, turnovers, Lewan's penalty in the Raiders game etc..... The offense, even early was already better at 3rd downs and in the redzone but once things clicked for Mariota and they quit making mistakes the offense exploded. I listened to Fasano and McCourty heap praise on Mularkey for telling the team even last year what kind of team he wanted to build and they said it's made the players buy in watching it work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhNoMularkey Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 17 hours ago, oldschool said: The running game wasn't all that effective yesterday beyond the 1st play. as Murray slows down more is being put on Mariota and he's delivering. I'm not sure about that; I thought the running game was pretty good. What I've seen the last few games, including this one, was Mularkey/Robiskie not going overboard with trying to establish the run, by putting in more pass plays in situations where in the earlier games, it was primarily a run. They're calling much less pass plays with Mariota's back to the defense to start the play; instead of always starting his drop from center with a fake, he's making his drops while facing the defense. In essence, they're giving Mariota much more control of the offense, and yes, he's delivering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 hours ago, OhNoMularkey said: They're calling much less pass plays with Mariota's back to the defense to start the play; instead of always starting his drop from center with a fake, he's making his drops while facing the defense. I'm not sure about this. They have run a ton of under center playaction over the last 6 weeks. It seems to be more of a game to game opponent dependent issue. His passer rating has went up from under center, more than shotgun(at least going into this game). The key is people need to stop worrying about under center, hurry up, spread etc.... Mariota is capable of executing in all the sets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: I'm not sure about this. They have run a ton of under center playaction over the last 6 weeks. It seems to be more of a game to game opponent dependent issue. His passer rating has went up from under center, more than shotgun(at least going into this game). The key is people need to stop worrying about under center, hurry up, spread etc.... Mariota is capable of executing in all the sets It seems really hard for people to get past the notion that Mariota is only good if you use him a certain way. This kid will be good in any offense because he has the talent, work ethic, and will to succeed. It'seems time to stop pigeon holing him. The kid is special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, BeedoeLaw said: It seems really hard for people to get past the notion that Mariota is only good if you use him a certain way. For a lot of people the "certain way" was the any way but how Mularkey was going to use him. It's not only ok but it's becoming elite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Anyone who was expecting a prolific offense out of the gate was simply fooling themselves. That's not the coaching staff's fault. Coming into the season, the team had a newly assembled coaching staff, a second-year QB, and several new starters including two day-one rookie starters. This was not a recipe for instant success. It was going to take time for things to come together and for the chemistry to develop, and for the coaching staff to find the right balance and approach with gameplanning and playcalling....and until things started to gel, it was going to look bad and downright ugly at times. Which is EXACTLY what happened. Nobody owes the coaching staff an apology. They're doing one hell of a job. If anything, folks need to apologize to themselves after setting themselves up for disappointment with unrealistic expectations. That's not on the coaching staff....that's on THEM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhNoMularkey Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 hours ago, OILERMAN said: I'm not sure about this. They have run a ton of under center playaction over the last 6 weeks. It seems to be more of a game to game opponent dependent issue. His passer rating has went up from under center, more than shotgun(at least going into this game). The key is people need to stop worrying about under center, hurry up, spread etc.... Mariota is capable of executing in all the sets Under center, yes, but much less of the ones where he fakes a give to the RB, with his back to the defense; in the first few games, he did a ton of that. Later, they had him doing a lot of his drops while facing the denfense. In the last 2 games, he's done very few fakes with his back to the defense, specially after the 1st SD interception. Where in the earlier games, it was very predictable with the fakes, the later games had him doing that less, and also varying the depth of his drops, so that he could mix in some quick passing to go with the deep passing. I don't doubt Mariota could adapt; what I questioned was making Mariota do most of the adapting instantly, instead of slowly incorporating these aspects to the strengths of his game. The early games were the results, but since Mariota has been able to come out on the other side pretty fast, the crash course is justified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 lol the slience from Jamal in this thread is defeaning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: lol the slience from Jamal in this thread is defeaning. he's been taking a pounding all year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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