Titans279 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Soxcat said: And a bunch of middle to late round picks start as rookies at RT all the time. Like the kid on the Vikings who we passed in the draft and he went in the 4th round (Clemmings). Darryl Williams was drafted 102 by the Panthers and started at RT from day one and has played well. We should be able to find a starting RT in rounds 2-4 and just need to make sure he has the feet to pass protect. And I still wouldn't rule out Poutasi if he can make some progress on his footwork. But either way even the crème of the crop OTs have adjustments to make in the NFL and usually aren't great there first year. Citation needed for Clemmings and Williams "playing well." I know Clemmings had a lower PFF rating than Poutasi halfway through the season and saw Vikings fans complaining about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Face said: What's the deal with Bosa & drugs? I keep reading this. I know he's into house music & clubs, is it Molly's or something that's the rumor? I believe so. Haven't heard about Tunsil having an issue until just now, but any drug issues would be major concerns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcibiades Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 A lot will change in the next few months, but as of today, here's is my preference, in order: 1. Trade down a few spots and pick up an extra first rounder next year (or at least an extra second this year). 2. Ramsey 3. Bosa 4. Tunsil Just to be clear, 2-4 are pretty close for me, and I'd be fine with any of the three. But if the draft happened tomorrow, I'd want one of those three guys. If we can trade down a couple of spots, I'd be thrilled, because we'd STILL get one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I have a feeling Treadwell is going to shoot up draft boards. #1 is too high though. I would love a trade down this year, but I don't see it happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Soxcat said: Darryl Williams was drafted 102 by the Panthers and started at RT from day one and has played well. Your point becomes invalid when you start to make shit up. Darryl Williams has been a back up virtually the entire season. In what games 1 - 12, did he play well???? Since you actually witnessed it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcibiades Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 24 minutes ago, Jonboy said: I have a feeling Treadwell is going to shoot up draft boards. #1 is too high though. I would love a trade down this year, but I don't see it happening. If we trade down to around 8-10 or so, I'd LOVE Treadwell at that spot. He's just not enough of a sure thing for our pick, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I would take Bosa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Soxcat said: Playing well enough to not hinder their teams getting to the playoffs. All rookies have issues at OT. Even the best ones. But both those guys held their own. And give Wiz some credit for screwing up Poutasi and leaving him out there by himself against speed rushers. The Vikings did help Clemmings when he needed it. The bottom line is all rookies start out slow and get better by playing. The Titans bench the rookie in favor of a scrub vet who is gone after this year and sucks anyway. http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_29081364/vikings-rookie-tackle-t-j-clemmings-giving-Adrian How do you listen to this bullshit? Williams was hurt at the beginning of the season and even if he wasn't, he was a back up to Mike Remmers. The dude only played in 3 games all year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle021 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Face said: I want Bosa or Buckner but in regards to Tunsil I think people are too focused on the left & right tackle thing, saying we have to switch Lewan to RT or if we don't, you can't take a RT that high. I really think teams need to start looking at tackles like WR's, forget what side they're on, you need 2 good ones. Teams rarely keep extra blockers in anymore, the RT is not being helped by the TE anymore, the TE is lined up as a slot receiver. The RT is going to have to block guys like Justin Houston & Von Miller one on one. That said, I think OL importance is overrated. Yes, a terrible OL can kill an offense but I don't think you really need a dominant OL, you just need a decent competent one. THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this for few years now... RT is every bit as important as LT now... Guys like Watt can line up anywhere, and line up on the weakest part of your OL... Guys are so athletic and multi-faceted now that they can play either end position, or move from DT to DE, or DE to OLB, etc... Pass rushers come from everywhere... We took for granted the decade of awesomeness Stewart and Roos gave us... It's time to get that back... I want Ramsey on this defense in the worst way, but protecting Mariota is 10x more important... We can get a really good FS in 2 or 3... It's deep at FS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle021 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 12 hours ago, hazzed said: GM Nick Caserio HC Sean McDermott Draft... 1st Round Jalen Ramsey FS/CB 2nd Round Cory Coleman WR/Returner Notable free agent signings RT Andre Smith RB Lamar Miller WR Marvin Jones And Win the Division That was easy You're hired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle021 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 14 hours ago, reo said: Just now looking over the draft. I never know much about the guys coming out until a couple weeks or months after the season. Right now I'm definitely thinking trade down. Maybe trade down and Jaylon Smith. None of the corners or other defensive guys look great. I was using this: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings Haven't looked any past their top 11 so far though. I'm sure I'll look into it more eventually. It's a good draft. The only thing not making it a great draft is there is no Mariota/Luck/Newton in it... Although there will be a very good QB in Goff, and possibly Wentz Jaylon Smith is a stud, but suffered a bad knee injury... http://www.fox28.com/story/30871462/2016/01/02/source-notre-dame-lb-jaylon-smith-has-multi-ligament-damage-in-knee they haven't revealed specifics, but they say it's multiple ligaments... He would be placed on IR for first year most likely... He is a LB that depends alot on his Athleticism because he isn't strong enough at the POA yet... He would be best served to rehab, and come into next years draft. Taking Jalen Ramsey FS would be a great choice, even at #1... Guy is the next big thing at S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Face said: I want Bosa or Buckner but in regards to Tunsil I think people are too focused on the left & right tackle thing, saying we have to switch Lewan to RT or if we don't, you can't take a RT that high. I really think teams need to start looking at tackles like WR's, forget what side they're on, you need 2 good ones. Teams rarely keep extra blockers in anymore, the RT is not being helped by the TE anymore, the TE is lined up as a slot receiver. The RT is going to have to block guys like Justin Houston & Von Miller one on one. That said, I think OL importance is overrated. Yes, a terrible OL can kill an offense but I don't think you really need a dominant OL, you just need a decent competent one. Yep that's why I thought it was a bad idea when we were bringing in guys like Bell and Poutasi to play RT. To top it off, it seems like the best thing to do with Mariota is spread defenses out, which means spreading the offensive formation out, which means in no way should we ever think about an opening day roster with more TE's than WR's. We need a RT who's better at pass protection, the exact opposite of what we had this year. I watched a few games of Tunsil last night, and he looks like the real deal to me, at the moment he's impressed me more than Bosa. I want to see more of Buckner, he's the position I'd probably want the most. But the league has shown many of the best teams don't have elite OT's or OL's period. Ideally we'd want a decent OL with Mariota's abilities making them seem better than they are which would allow us to use more of our resources elsewhere on the roster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bobo said: Yep that's why I thought it was a bad idea when we were bringing in guys like Bell and Poutasi to play RT. To top it off, it seems like the best thing to do with Mariota is spread defenses out, which means spreading the offensive formation out, which means in no way should we ever think about an opening day roster with more TE's than WR's. We need a RT who's better at pass protection, the exact opposite of what we had this year. I watched a few games of Tunsil last night, and he looks like the real deal to me, at the moment he's impressed me more than Bosa. I want to see more of Buckner, he's the position I'd probably want the most. But the league has shown many of the best teams don't have elite OT's or OL's period. Ideally we'd want a decent OL with Mariota's abilities making them seem better than they are which would allow us to use more of our resources elsewhere on the roster. Looking back, the roster composition & really just the whole approach last year was head scratching. I really don't know why you'd take a QB like Mariota & surround him with blocking TE's, FB's, and big slow footed OL. It was just....weird. We need an influx of athleticism at RB & the OL. Look at Seattle, they have a bad OL but they zone block, move Wilson around, and compensate for it. We need to re-do things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcibiades Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I think they felt that a power run game would help take pressure off of Mariota. They probably didn't expect him to play so well so quickly. Truth is that our power run game players (Cobb, Poutasi, and Fowler) didn't help at all. Having all those TEs helped a bit, maybe...but we were super thin at WR, which hurt again. Our OL was terrible. I understand their thought process; I don't agree with it, but I get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I dont want Tunsil for the simple fact that it will be too easy to refer to him as Laremy Turnstile when he busts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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