Muslims standing up to extremists

[Legaltitan]

Can't remember the thread where it was pointed out, erroneously, how Muslims don't "speak out" against violent extremism.  Of course, they do all the time and I pointed that out in that thread.

These Muslims did a lot more than speak out - they put their life on the line:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/22/africa/kenya-bus-attack-al-shabaab-muslim-christians/index.html

[Jamalisms]

I find that sort of commentary interesting because not only are they speaking out, or donating money or many other things ... rather frequently ... but it's actually covered by the media as well. The only reason to think that many don't speak out is an almost willful ignorance of what's going on.

['Nator]

Any time any sweeping claim is made about what "Muslims" do or don't do it's pretty fucking stupid considering we are talking about over 1.6 billion people in dozens of countries and cultures. 

[Rogue]

I don't think this will make much difference to our resident Muslim experts.  A youtube video with scary music is a much better source of reliable information.  

[ctm]

Muslims in Dearborn Michigan held a protest march against ISIS after the San Bernardino shootings.  Guess what happened next?  It gets posted and shared 3700 times on Facebook as a Pro-Isis march.

http://nymag.com/following/2015/12/dearborn-muslims-protested-isis-and-then.html

Original news story about anti-ISIS demonstrations

http://www.wxyz.com/news/hundreds-of-people-in-dearborn-are-taking-a-stand-against-isis-and-terrorist-attacks

 

 

 

 

[Little Earl]

Finding examples to the contrary does not prove a point.  The vast majority of Muslims do not speak out, just as the vast majority are not part of the radical element.   Now the reasons for that can be argued.   Some are intimidated and afraid of the radical element, while the others quietly agree with part or all that the radical element perpetrates. 

But the fact is the radical element lives with, hangs out with, and recruits from their fellow Muslims.   As long as they continue to committ their autrocities, more Muslims must speak out against their actions.   Otherwise they need to be find partly accountable, and suffer some consequences as a result.

[ctm]

1 hour ago, Little Earl said:

Finding examples to the contrary does not prove a point.  The vast majority of Muslims do not speak out, just as the vast majority are not part of the radical element.   Now the reasons for that can be argued.   Some are intimidated and afraid of the radical element, while the others quietly agree with part or all that the radical element perpetrates. 

But the fact is the radical element lives with, hangs out with, and recruits from their fellow Muslims.   As long as they continue to committ their autrocities, more Muslims must speak out against their actions.   Otherwise they need to be find partly accountable, and suffer some consequences as a result.

Do you speak out when Christians or right wingers shoot up abortion clinics?  Of course not.  Most people don't.

[Rogue]

4 minutes ago, ctm said:

Do you speak out when Christians or right wingers shoot up abortion clinics?  Of course not.  Most people don't.

But, but, that's different....

[Little Earl]

1 hour ago, Rogue said:

But, but, that's different....

That's right dipshit, it is different.   A couple of lone nuts that shoot up abortion clinics is a far cry from the hundreds of thousands of extreminists that want to do us harm. 

[ctm]

There is a long, long history of abortion clinic violence in the US.  Not just one incidence.  It continues to amaze me how people who claim to be right to life either commit violence or murder or find a way to justify it when it is committed by others. Where are the demonstrations, the outrage or the condemnation by conservatives by the murders and violence committed by their own?

Murders[edit]

In the United States, violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eleven people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, a police officer, two people (unclear of their connection), and a clinic escort;^{[I 1][I 2]} Seven murders occurred in the 1990s.^{[I 3]}

• March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.^{[I 4]}
• July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before in 1984 and was also bombed subsequently in 2012.^{[I 5]} Neighbors and former neighbors described the suspect as "reclusive",^{[I 6]} and police from several states where the suspect resided described a history of run ins dating from at least 1997.^{[I 7]}
• December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.^{[I 5]}
• January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph admitted responsibility; he was also charged with three Atlanta bombings: the 1997 bombing of an abortion center, the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, and another of a lesbian nightclub. He was charged with the crimes and received two life sentences as a result.^{[I 8]}
• October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after being apprehended in France in 2001.^{[I 9]}
• May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at a church in Wichita, Kansas.^{[I 10]}
• November 29, 2015: A shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado, left three dead and several injured, and a suspect was apprehended.^{[I 11][I 12][I 13]} The suspect had previously acted against other clinics, and referred to himself as a "warrior for the babies" at his hearing.^{[I 14][I 15]} Neighbors and former neighbors described the suspect as "reclusive",^{[I 12]} and police from several states where the suspect resided described a history of run-ins dating from at least 1997.^{[I 13]} As of December 2015, the trial of the suspect is on going.^{[I 14}

• Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping[edit]

  According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, 13 wounded,^[11] 100 butyric acid attacks, 373 physical invasions, 41 bombings, 655 anthrax threats,^[12] and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.^{[I 16]} Between 1997 and 1990 77 death threats were made with 250 made between 1991 to 1999 .^[11] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:^{[I 1][I 17][I 18]} IN 1985 45% of clinics reported bomb threats, decreasing to 15% in 2000. One fifth of clinics in 2000 experienced some form of extreme activity. ^[13]

• August 1982: Three men identifying as the Army of God kidnapped Hector Zevallos (a doctor and clinic owner) and his wife, Rosalee Jean, holding them for eight days.^[14]
• June 15, 1984: A month after he destroyed suction equipment at a Birmingham clinic, Father Edward Markley, a Benedictine priest who was the Birmingham diocesan "Coordinator for Pro-Life Activities".^{[I 19][I 20]} (and perhaps an accomplice^{[citation needed]}), entered the Women's Community Health Center in Huntsville, Alabama, assaulting at least three clinic workers.^{[citation needed]} Kathryn Wood, one of the workers, received back injuries and a broken neck vertebrae while preventing Markley from splashing red paint on the clinic's equipment. Markley was convicted of first-degree criminal mischief, one count of third-degree assault, and one count of harassment in the Huntsville attack.^[15]
• August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
• July 29, 1994: June Barrett was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
• December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
• December 18, 1996: Dr. Calvin Jackson of New Orleans, Louisiana was stabbed 15 times, losing 4 pints of blood. Donald Cooper was charged with second degree attempted murder and was sentenced to 20 years. "Donald Cooper's Day of Violence", by Kara Lowentheil, Choice! Magazine, December 21, 2004.
• October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.^{[I 21]}
• January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed off-duty police officer Robert Sanderson.
• 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed off-duty police officer Robert Sanderson.

  Arson, bombing, and property crime[edit]

  According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").^{[I 16]}The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.^{[I 22]} The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.^{[I 23]} Incidents have included:

• May 26, 1983: Joseph Grace set the Hillcrest clinic in Norfolk, Virginia ablaze. He was arrested while sleeping in his van a few blocks from the clinic when an alert patrol officer noticed the smell of kerosene.^{[I 24]}
• May 12, 1984: Two men entered a Birmingham, Alabama clinic on Mother's Day weekend shortly after a lone woman opened the doors at 7:25 A.M. Forcing their way into the clinic, one of the men threatened the woman if she tried to prevent the attack while the other, wielding a sledgehammer, did between $7,500 and $8,500 of damage to suction equipment. The man who damaged the equipment was later identified as Father Edward Markley. Father Markley is a Benedictine priest who was the Birmingham diocesan "Coordinator for Pro-Life Activities". Markley was convicted of first-degree criminal mischief and second-degree burglary. His accomplice has never been identified. The following month (near Father's Day), Markley entered a women's health center in Huntsville, Alabama (see above).^{[I 20]}
• December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida, were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."^{[I 25][I 26][I 27]} The clinic, the Ladies Center, would later be the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994 and a firebombing in 2012.
• July 3, 1989: A fire was started at the Feminist Health Center clinic in Concord NH on the day U.S. Supreme Court upheld a Missouri law banning funding of public facilities as related to abortion. The clinic was set afire again in 2000.^{[I 28]}
• March 29, 1993: Blue Mountain Clinic in Missoula, Montana; at around 1 a.m., an arsonist snuck onto the premises and firebombed the clinic. The perpetrator, a Washington man, was ultimately caught, convicted and imprisoned. The facility was a near-total loss, but all of the patients' records, though damaged, survived the fire in metal file cabinets.^{[I 29][I 30][I 31][I 32]}
• January 1997:, Eric Rudolph admitted, as part of a plea deal for the Centennial Olympic Park bombing at the 1996 Olympic Games to placing a pair of bombs that exploded at the Northside Family Planning Services clinic in the Atlanta suburb of Sandy Springs.^{[I 8]}
• May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.^{[I 33]}
• October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.^{[I 34]}
• May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire, resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.^{[I 35][I 36][I 37]} This was the second arson at the clinic.^{[I 38]}
• September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building, who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.^{[I 39]}
• June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington, destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.^{[I 34][I 40]}
• July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida, was the target of an arson. The case remains open.^{[I 34]}
• December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.^{[I 41]}
• September 11, 2006: David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.^{[I 42]} Time magazine listed the incident in a "Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots" list.^{[I 43]}
• April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.^{[I 44]}
• May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.^{[I 45]}
• December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Baca's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.^{[I 46][I 47]}
• January 22, 2009: Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness^{[I 48]} rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.^{[I 49]}
• January 1, 2012: Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida, with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there. The clinic had previously been bombed at Christmas in 1984 and was the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994.^{[I 50]}
• April 1, 2012: A bomb exploded on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, resulting in a fire that damaged one of the clinic's examination rooms. No injuries were reported.
• April 11, 2013: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Bloomington, Indiana, was vandalized with an axe.^{[I 51]}
• September 4, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Pullman, Washington was intentionally set on fire. No injuries were reported due to the time of day, but the FBI was involved because of a history of domestic terrorism against the clinic.^{[I 52]}
• September 30, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Thousand Oaks, California was vandalized by an arsonist or arsonists who authorities believe smashed out a window, splashed gasoline inside the clinic, and then ignited it.^{[I 53]}
• October 22, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Claremont, New Hampshire was vandalized by a juvenile intruder. Damaged in the attack were computers, furniture, plumbing fixtures, office equipment, medical equipment, phone lines, windows, and walls. The flooding that resulted from the vandalism also damaged an adjacent business.^{[I 54][I 55]}

  Violence by Army of God[edit]

  Main article: Army of God

  According to the Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security's joint Terrorism Knowledge Base, the Army of God is an underground terrorist organization active in the United States formed in 1982, which has been responsible for a substantial amount of anti-abortion violence. In addition to numerous property crimes, the group has committed acts of kidnapping, attempted murder, and murder. While sharing a common ideology and tactics, members claim to rarely communicate;^[16] the organization forbids those who wish to "take action against baby killing abortionists" from discussing their plans with anyone in advance.^[17]

  In August 1982, three men identifying as the Army of God kidnapped Hector Zevallos (a doctor and clinic owner) and his wife, Rosalee Jean, holding them for eight days.^[14] In 1993, Shelly Shannon, a very active member of the Army of God, was found guilty of the attempted murder of Dr. George Tiller.^[18] That same year, law enforcement officials found the Army of God Manual, a tactical guide to arson, chemical attacks, invasions, and bombings buried in Shelly Shannon's backyard.^[14]Paul Jennings Hill was found guilty of the murder of both Dr. John Britton and clinic escort James Barrett.

  The Army of God published a "Defensive Action Statement" signed by more than two dozen supporters of Hill, saying that "whatever force is legitimate to defend the life of a born child is legitimate to defend the life of an unborn child... if in fact Paul Hill did kill or wound abortionist John Britton and clinic assistants James Barrett and Mrs. Barrett, his actions are morally justified if they were necessary for the purpose of defending innocent human life".^[17][19] The AOG claimed responsibility for Eric Robert Rudolph's 1997 shrapnel bombing of abortion clinics in Atlanta and Birmingham.^[20] The organization embraces its description as terrorist.^[21]

  Physician "wanted" posters[edit]

  In the late 1990s, an organization called American Coalition of Life Activists (ACLA) was accused of implicitly advocating violence by its publication on its "Nuremberg Files" website of wanted-style posters, which featured a photograph of a physician who performed abortions along with a monetary reward for any information that would lead to his "arrest, conviction, and revocation of license to practice medicine".^[22] The ACLA's website described these physicians as war criminals^[23] and accused them of committing "crimes against humanity". The web site also published names, home addresses, telephone numbers, and other personal information regarding abortion providers—highlighting the names of those who had been wounded and striking out those of who had been killed. Dr. George Tiller's name was included on this list along with many others. The site was accused of being a thinly-veiled hit list intended to incite violence; others claimed that it was protected under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.^[24] In 2002, after a prolonged debate, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the "posters" constituted an illegal threat.^[25]

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

 

 

[Titanjuicy]

11 hours ago, Little Earl said:

Finding examples to the contrary does not prove a point. 

Remember this statement when you post about global warming.

[Rogue]

1 hour ago, ctm said:

There is a long, long history of abortion clinic violence in the US.  Not just one incidence.  It continues to amaze me how people who claim to be right to life either commit violence or murder or find a way to justify it when it is committed by others. Where are the demonstrations, the outrage or the condemnation by conservatives by the murders and violence committed by their own?

Murders[edit]

In the United States, violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eleven people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, a police officer, two people (unclear of their connection), and a clinic escort;^{[I 1][I 2]} Seven murders occurred in the 1990s.^{[I 3]}

• March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.^{[I 4]}
• July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before in 1984 and was also bombed subsequently in 2012.^{[I 5]} Neighbors and former neighbors described the suspect as "reclusive",^{[I 6]} and police from several states where the suspect resided described a history of run ins dating from at least 1997.^{[I 7]}
• December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.^{[I 5]}
• January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph admitted responsibility; he was also charged with three Atlanta bombings: the 1997 bombing of an abortion center, the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, and another of a lesbian nightclub. He was charged with the crimes and received two life sentences as a result.^{[I 8]}
• October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after being apprehended in France in 2001.^{[I 9]}
• May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at a church in Wichita, Kansas.^{[I 10]}
• November 29, 2015: A shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado, left three dead and several injured, and a suspect was apprehended.^{[I 11][I 12][I 13]} The suspect had previously acted against other clinics, and referred to himself as a "warrior for the babies" at his hearing.^{[I 14][I 15]} Neighbors and former neighbors described the suspect as "reclusive",^{[I 12]} and police from several states where the suspect resided described a history of run-ins dating from at least 1997.^{[I 13]} As of December 2015, the trial of the suspect is on going.^{[I 14}

• Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping[edit]

  According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, 13 wounded,^[11] 100 butyric acid attacks, 373 physical invasions, 41 bombings, 655 anthrax threats,^[12] and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.^{[I 16]} Between 1997 and 1990 77 death threats were made with 250 made between 1991 to 1999 .^[11] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:^{[I 1][I 17][I 18]} IN 1985 45% of clinics reported bomb threats, decreasing to 15% in 2000. One fifth of clinics in 2000 experienced some form of extreme activity. ^[13]

• August 1982: Three men identifying as the Army of God kidnapped Hector Zevallos (a doctor and clinic owner) and his wife, Rosalee Jean, holding them for eight days.^[14]
• June 15, 1984: A month after he destroyed suction equipment at a Birmingham clinic, Father Edward Markley, a Benedictine priest who was the Birmingham diocesan "Coordinator for Pro-Life Activities".^{[I 19][I 20]} (and perhaps an accomplice^{[citation needed]}), entered the Women's Community Health Center in Huntsville, Alabama, assaulting at least three clinic workers.^{[citation needed]} Kathryn Wood, one of the workers, received back injuries and a broken neck vertebrae while preventing Markley from splashing red paint on the clinic's equipment. Markley was convicted of first-degree criminal mischief, one count of third-degree assault, and one count of harassment in the Huntsville attack.^[15]
• August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
• July 29, 1994: June Barrett was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
• December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
• December 18, 1996: Dr. Calvin Jackson of New Orleans, Louisiana was stabbed 15 times, losing 4 pints of blood. Donald Cooper was charged with second degree attempted murder and was sentenced to 20 years. "Donald Cooper's Day of Violence", by Kara Lowentheil, Choice! Magazine, December 21, 2004.
• October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.^{[I 21]}
• January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed off-duty police officer Robert Sanderson.
• 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed off-duty police officer Robert Sanderson.

  Arson, bombing, and property crime[edit]

  According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").^{[I 16]}The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.^{[I 22]} The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.^{[I 23]} Incidents have included:

• May 26, 1983: Joseph Grace set the Hillcrest clinic in Norfolk, Virginia ablaze. He was arrested while sleeping in his van a few blocks from the clinic when an alert patrol officer noticed the smell of kerosene.^{[I 24]}
• May 12, 1984: Two men entered a Birmingham, Alabama clinic on Mother's Day weekend shortly after a lone woman opened the doors at 7:25 A.M. Forcing their way into the clinic, one of the men threatened the woman if she tried to prevent the attack while the other, wielding a sledgehammer, did between $7,500 and $8,500 of damage to suction equipment. The man who damaged the equipment was later identified as Father Edward Markley. Father Markley is a Benedictine priest who was the Birmingham diocesan "Coordinator for Pro-Life Activities". Markley was convicted of first-degree criminal mischief and second-degree burglary. His accomplice has never been identified. The following month (near Father's Day), Markley entered a women's health center in Huntsville, Alabama (see above).^{[I 20]}
• December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida, were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."^{[I 25][I 26][I 27]} The clinic, the Ladies Center, would later be the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994 and a firebombing in 2012.
• July 3, 1989: A fire was started at the Feminist Health Center clinic in Concord NH on the day U.S. Supreme Court upheld a Missouri law banning funding of public facilities as related to abortion. The clinic was set afire again in 2000.^{[I 28]}
• March 29, 1993: Blue Mountain Clinic in Missoula, Montana; at around 1 a.m., an arsonist snuck onto the premises and firebombed the clinic. The perpetrator, a Washington man, was ultimately caught, convicted and imprisoned. The facility was a near-total loss, but all of the patients' records, though damaged, survived the fire in metal file cabinets.^{[I 29][I 30][I 31][I 32]}
• January 1997:, Eric Rudolph admitted, as part of a plea deal for the Centennial Olympic Park bombing at the 1996 Olympic Games to placing a pair of bombs that exploded at the Northside Family Planning Services clinic in the Atlanta suburb of Sandy Springs.^{[I 8]}
• May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.^{[I 33]}
• October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.^{[I 34]}
• May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire, resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.^{[I 35][I 36][I 37]} This was the second arson at the clinic.^{[I 38]}
• September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building, who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.^{[I 39]}
• June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington, destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.^{[I 34][I 40]}
• July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida, was the target of an arson. The case remains open.^{[I 34]}
• December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.^{[I 41]}
• September 11, 2006: David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.^{[I 42]} Time magazine listed the incident in a "Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots" list.^{[I 43]}
• April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.^{[I 44]}
• May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.^{[I 45]}
• December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Baca's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.^{[I 46][I 47]}
• January 22, 2009: Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness^{[I 48]} rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.^{[I 49]}
• January 1, 2012: Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida, with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there. The clinic had previously been bombed at Christmas in 1984 and was the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994.^{[I 50]}
• April 1, 2012: A bomb exploded on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, resulting in a fire that damaged one of the clinic's examination rooms. No injuries were reported.
• April 11, 2013: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Bloomington, Indiana, was vandalized with an axe.^{[I 51]}
• September 4, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Pullman, Washington was intentionally set on fire. No injuries were reported due to the time of day, but the FBI was involved because of a history of domestic terrorism against the clinic.^{[I 52]}
• September 30, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Thousand Oaks, California was vandalized by an arsonist or arsonists who authorities believe smashed out a window, splashed gasoline inside the clinic, and then ignited it.^{[I 53]}
• October 22, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Claremont, New Hampshire was vandalized by a juvenile intruder. Damaged in the attack were computers, furniture, plumbing fixtures, office equipment, medical equipment, phone lines, windows, and walls. The flooding that resulted from the vandalism also damaged an adjacent business.^{[I 54][I 55]}

  Violence by Army of God[edit]

  Main article: Army of God

  According to the Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security's joint Terrorism Knowledge Base, the Army of God is an underground terrorist organization active in the United States formed in 1982, which has been responsible for a substantial amount of anti-abortion violence. In addition to numerous property crimes, the group has committed acts of kidnapping, attempted murder, and murder. While sharing a common ideology and tactics, members claim to rarely communicate;^[16] the organization forbids those who wish to "take action against baby killing abortionists" from discussing their plans with anyone in advance.^[17]

  In August 1982, three men identifying as the Army of God kidnapped Hector Zevallos (a doctor and clinic owner) and his wife, Rosalee Jean, holding them for eight days.^[14] In 1993, Shelly Shannon, a very active member of the Army of God, was found guilty of the attempted murder of Dr. George Tiller.^[18] That same year, law enforcement officials found the Army of God Manual, a tactical guide to arson, chemical attacks, invasions, and bombings buried in Shelly Shannon's backyard.^[14]Paul Jennings Hill was found guilty of the murder of both Dr. John Britton and clinic escort James Barrett.

  The Army of God published a "Defensive Action Statement" signed by more than two dozen supporters of Hill, saying that "whatever force is legitimate to defend the life of a born child is legitimate to defend the life of an unborn child... if in fact Paul Hill did kill or wound abortionist John Britton and clinic assistants James Barrett and Mrs. Barrett, his actions are morally justified if they were necessary for the purpose of defending innocent human life".^[17][19] The AOG claimed responsibility for Eric Robert Rudolph's 1997 shrapnel bombing of abortion clinics in Atlanta and Birmingham.^[20] The organization embraces its description as terrorist.^[21]

  Physician "wanted" posters[edit]

  In the late 1990s, an organization called American Coalition of Life Activists (ACLA) was accused of implicitly advocating violence by its publication on its "Nuremberg Files" website of wanted-style posters, which featured a photograph of a physician who performed abortions along with a monetary reward for any information that would lead to his "arrest, conviction, and revocation of license to practice medicine".^[22] The ACLA's website described these physicians as war criminals^[23] and accused them of committing "crimes against humanity". The web site also published names, home addresses, telephone numbers, and other personal information regarding abortion providers—highlighting the names of those who had been wounded and striking out those of who had been killed. Dr. George Tiller's name was included on this list along with many others. The site was accused of being a thinly-veiled hit list intended to incite violence; others claimed that it was protected under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.^[24] In 2002, after a prolonged debate, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the "posters" constituted an illegal threat.^[25]

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

 

 

But, but, but, but, but.....Muslims!

[Little Earl]

I am simply amazed at how retarded some people can be.  The number of deaths, incidents, and injuries as a result of people violently attacking abortionists is minor compared to Muslim extremists.  The treat to the american way of life is not threatened by abortion attackers.   The comparison is piss poor.  Christians would come out in mass if abortionist attacks was organized and widespread.  It is not.

[Justafan]

Of course Muslims have spoken out against ISIS and other terror groups like them. 

Of course right wing affiliates have largely ignored them, devalued them, or even twisted those protests into pro-ISIS demonstrations. 

Christian Zealots are just as brainwashed as the Muslims Zealots they speak out against.  Just as moderate Christians are willing to hear that not all Muslims are terrorists, moderate Muslims are willing to hear that not all Christians are radicals.

The right wing zealots do have a point that often the silent majority is irrelevant and the very real threat does remain but trying to reason with them that not all people fit into a neat little box that's convenient for their understanding is like telling water not to be wet. They simply aren't programmed for it.

[ctm]

44 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

I am simply amazed at how retarded some people can be.  The number of deaths, incidents, and injuries as a result of people violently attacking abortionists is minor compared to Muslim extremists.  The treat to the american way of life is not threatened by abortion attackers.   The comparison is piss poor.  Christians would come out in mass if abortionist attacks was organized and widespread.  It is not.

Once again, trying to minimize right wing murder and terrorism.