OILERMAN Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 The team won't go 3 full years with a bust at QB. Jake Locker was just given 4 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'm not sure what will happen with Whitehurst if Mariota is drafted But what I'd do is go with Mettenberger as the back-up and get another developmental 3rd string guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'm sure they'd hold onto Whitehurst until his contract is up next year, regardless of what else happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Call me crazy....but it's possible that the coaching staff's opinion might be based more on what they saw of him in regular season NFL games than pre-draft evaluations that were made before he ever played a down in the NFL. It cracks me up how much emphasis people place on a player's draft position after he's already in the NFL. Once a player hits the field it doesn't make a damn bit of difference where he was drafted; he's going to play the way he plays, regardless of whether he was a top-five pick or an undrafted free agent. Talent scouting is a very inexact science, and even the most successful evaluators misjudge players on a regular basis....wasting high picks on bad players while allowing great players to slip to the later rounds. It's hardly a stretch to think that Mettenberger could end up being another diamond in the rough, and a much better player in the NFL than any of his pre-draft scouting reports suggested. I agree. But Climer glosses over all of that and says they drafted him in the 6th and think he's Tom Brady. It's the article that made this leap not us. Coach Ken Whisenhunt identified Mettenberger as an undervalued asset last spring. General manager Ruston Webster pulled the trigger and drafted him in the sixth round. In short, Whisenhunt and Webster think they pulled the steal of the 2014 draft. Titans brass see Mettenberger as a poor team’s Tom Brady. He’s the quarterback. LOL. He just plain leaped over every detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 It is relevant on how much chance they get. Easy example: Perhaps it is Titans fan bias, but I think most would conclude that Mettenberger looked better than Bortles last year. Yet if the Titans draft Mariota, no one would be shocked and most, throughout the NFL, would conclude that it was a good, rational pick, but if the Jaguars picked Mariota at #3, there would be opinion after opinion describing the pick as crazy and shocking, and remark after remark questioning the Jaguars taking back to back QBs early. What is difference? Where they were drafted. Why? Because everyone expects an early pick to get much more chance than one taken in 6th round. Would Browns fans and analysts freak out if they drafted Mariota after drafting Johnny Manziel last year? I doubt it. It depends on what people see from a player. Do late round picks get a shorter leash. Yes. But do first round picks have a guaranteed long leash. No. I actually read an NFL.com article that pegs Bortles as breakout candidate. Some players get drafted high because of their ceiling AND their current talents. Some players get drafted late because they are what they are already. EDIT: And sometimes players get drafted in the wrong place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 It is relevant on how much chance they get. Easy example: Perhaps it is Titans fan bias, but I think most would conclude that Mettenberger looked better than Bortles last year. Yet if the Titans draft Mariota, no one would be shocked and most, throughout the NFL, would conclude that it was a good, rational pick, but if the Jaguars picked Mariota at #3, there would be opinion after opinion describing the pick as crazy and shocking, and remark after remark questioning the Jaguars taking back to back QBs early. What is difference? Where they were drafted. Why? Because everyone expects an early pick to get much more chance than one taken in 6th round. No question. I don't want to rehash the argument but there was an article ranting about how great Bridgewater's last 5 starts were. Meanwhile, in Mett's ONLY 5 game stretch, his numbers were basically the exact same. Something like 30 more yards, both had an 8/5 TD/pick ratio. TB had a better completion %, Mett better YPA. This isn't a shot at Teddy at all who I like a lot but the double standard is obvious, TB is considered "special" while Mett did nothing to show he's the answer & we have to take Mariota. The Bortles example you listed is perfect, if both & Mett played the exact same way as they did last year but their draft positions were flip flopped & Mett was the 3rd pick, not a single analyst in the world would even consider us picking MM & Jax would be doing everything they can to trade up with us for Mariota. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlers Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I think some of those Mett stats vs TB are skewed. Lots of Mett's stats were when the game was out of balance. I'm just saying... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Locker got more time because, he didn't start early, he had injuries that cut his playing time and there was a coaching change. CBJ would be an expensive #3. Don't see that happening. Mett has shown enough to get the #2 reps and continue his development. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Locker got more time because, he didn't start early, he had injuries that cut his playing time and there was a coaching change. Mariota is raw and needs development to transform his skill set to the pro game by all accounts. The idea of replacing him midway into his 2nd year would be insane. If they determine he's worthy of the 2nd overall pick you have to exhaust everything to turn him into a quality starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I can't believe I'm saying this since I'm so pro-Mettenberger but I'm starting to get worried here. Is Mariota this great a QB prospect that a half a dozen teams are in a bidding war for him? Is he just too good to pass up? A bunch of those teams have worse qb situations than the Titans though and with the questionable qb class this year, it makes sense that there are several teams interested. Climer also had a nice little dig at Sankey in his column. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 It's Climer. Do yall really think that queer is going to scoop every other writer in America? Get real. He has no sources. He's the guy that will write the article that gets a ris out of peoplE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 If Mett gets hurt, the backup is Whitehurst unless they add someone else. And if that happens, then odds are we will be in position to draft very early again next year. And next year's QB class looks even worse than this one. Cook and Hackenburg...and Hack may stay at Penn State for his senior year. So its really just Connor Cook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 So who's the Qb if Mett gets hurt (he's been injured 2 consecutive seasons) I say draft either Winston/Mariota and let them compete against Mett. If QB is the most important position on the team. Why wouldn't you hedge your bets to make sure that you have more than one prospect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 All Climer has done is make us ask the same damn questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I think some of those Mett stats vs TB are skewed. Lots of Mett's stats were when the game was out of balance. I'm just saying... I would imagine since the Jags only won three games, Bortles stats where unbalanced as well. So, if A then B. Mett will drop back a little when in closely contested games and Bortles will bust out of the league when he plays closely contested games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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