imemtitan Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Was just going to post something similar. There is a difference between a timing/throw to a spot pass and throwing to a receiver who is open. Had Wright been standing in the back of the endzone wide open and Locker missed him then that is 100% on Locker. But if Locker is throwing a timing route to a spot, then the error could have been on him and/or Wright. That isn't to say that on this occasion that the failure wasn't all on Locker, it is possible that Wright ran a perfect route and Locker was just off, but there is the possibility on this kind of route that the error wasn't fully on the QB and it could have been a bad route by the WR. Or it could have been both of them with their limited experience that made an error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 @CMJ have you listened to one yet? We bring you up quite often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 @CMJ have you listened to one yet? We bring you up quite often. "CMJ is a goofball" "CMJ is clueless" "CMJ is really titansfan" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 "CMJ is a goofball" "CMJ is clueless" "CMJ is really titansfan" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 When talking about our depth at LB, we totally forgot about McRath. I know his contract is up but he'd probably come pretty cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 When talking about our depth at LB, we totally forgot about McRath. I know his contract is up but he'd probably come pretty cheap. Who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Who? You know. The guy that goes "AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" on Twitter all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Some of the more informative coachspeak from Monday's presser (coachspeak because he tries to say nobody is to blame, but informative because sometimes you can read between the lines): (on Derrick Morgan’s performance in the game) I thought it was fun to watch him play. He hit the quarterback I think seven times. When I say hit him, he took him to the ground seven times. He created the turnover for the touchdown, he had a sack. Other than jumping off sides one time, he played as well as a lot of defensive ends can play. He only got the one sack, but he was hitting him a lot and was aggressive and played the run well. To watch that group in general, the defensive line, I thought throughout the game, sacking him four times, all over him, making tough throws, making him earn everything he did upfront. That’s the thing that is encouraging when you watch us play. Especially right now on the defensive side of the ball the last five weeks, I think on third down, we’ve done a great job. Yesterday, we held them to 30 percent on third down, we held them to the least yards they’ve had all year. We were at 24 percent last week against Houston. I think we’re in the top five in the last so many weeks on that, or the top 10 I should say, in the last five weeks. We’re heading in the right direction as far as what we want to accomplish on defense. The bottom line is winning football games, we get that. Guys are playing better. The thing you want to look at when things aren’t going well, maybe on the win, loss, we’re looking at are we getting better? Are players getting better? Are they coming around? They are. That’s why it’s more disappointing when you don’t find a way to win a football game when you feel, especially on that side of the ball that we’re taking about right now, played very well in a lot of ways. Unfortunately, they made some mistakes too, and didn’t make some of the plays that as a defense we had an opportunity to make. You have a fumble on the ball right before half which was an easy pick up. The ball got pulled out, just like you ask. We stripped a guy, the ball is bouncing uncontested, we can’t cover it. That’s a huge play. Then we actually cover a fumble on a third down, but we’re offsides. We cover the fumble on a bad snap, and the game’s over. Those are the things, why the ball bounced that way, why he jumped offsides on that play. For all the good that is going on, those kind of plays are still happening and that’s what takes wins away from you. (on the struggles of the run game on Sunday) I think on both ends, we’re inconsistent in the game. I thought protection was very good for the most part in an environment like that with pass rushers like they have, the speed they have, the crowd noise, silent count, three new players. Jake (Locker) got hit probably twice in the pocket the whole day, maybe three times max. he moved around the pocket a little bit, but compared to what (Andrew) Luck went through at home, that’s a huge difference. Running the ball, we weren’t as consistent as we needed to be. There were times that (Chris Johnson) cut it back way too fast. That’s usually what happens, when things aren’t hitting right, I’m not going to blame it on the offensive line. It was the fullback didn’t block as well as he needed to block, the tight ends, the O-line at times, then CJ, I felt, didn’t run as well as he needed to run. When you watch it, that’s what it was. It needed to be better than it was if we were going to win, take pressure off of the quarterback. I thought that was what they did well yesterday. They couldn’t run the ball at all, and then all of a sudden, in spurts in that third and fourth quarter, they got some runs that took pressure off of their quarterback. If he had to keep dropping back, he may not have made it through the game the way we were attacking up front with that and Jerry (Gray’s) pressures and things like that. We needed to do better in that phase of the game, just to be more efficient. It wasn’t necessarily about our run average or anything. It was more about when you get down to the five-yard line, you have to be efficient and get that ball in there. You can’t lose yards on a first-and-five at the five. Those are things that are hard to take. That’s what shouldn’t happen. That’s up to those guys up front and the group to make sure that doesn’t happen. Worst case, it’s second-and-four at the four, and not second-and-10. They know that, I’m just repeating what they already know. That’s the part of the running game you can’t have. I thought Dowell (Loggains) stayed with the running game well, I thought he mixed it up well, moving the pocket, booted it, called some quarterback runs. We just did a lot of things, especially early, that we should have had more points. We had 20, and it should have been better than that. When you don’t capitalize on plays as we know, and you’re settling for field goals, and you miss fumbles that are on the ground, then it comes down to how come you can’t finish in the fourth quarter? The best way to not have to finish is by taking care of business in the first three quarters and putting the game more ahead than we have the last few weeks. (on at what point should Jake Locker be able to make the right decision on an option play) It’s not handcuffs. That’s the reason why we have the choice, because he’s not handcuffed. But when something doesn’t go right, you think, ‘What’s our part?’ You don’t just say, ‘That’s the player’s fault. He knows how to do that.’ I think sometimes the coach’s issue is that Jake (Locker) knows on that play he had an option, he did the wrong thing. It’s something that he’s done since he’s been here. On our behalf as coaches, it’s not excusing him from blame. He wished, obviously, he did not make that play. On our side, we look at it that in certain games, maybe in just that time of that game, where we were in the situation, just run the snake. You take out the chance of getting a six-yard completion, usually we feel that is a gimme if they’re playing way off. That’s where you’re looking. If he was handcuffed, we wouldn’t even allow that. That wouldn’t be called. We feel he can handle everything in the offense, that’s why we do what we do. We have him moving around, we have him checking plays, we have him making decisions because we feel he can handle that. We don’t want to make it too complicated for him. We made sure the routes, some cutbacks in some of the gray areas there. In certain protections, we make sure he’s not going to have to always adjust protections, that things are built into where during a game, you’re not putting pressure on him every snap to check protections, where every so often you do that. You don’t want to do that every snap where you’re putting pressure on a quarterback. Same thing in the run game, we’ll do some checks. We’ll call plays where he can run no matter what happens. It doesn’t matter what the Colts are doing, that’s a good play, let it go. Then there may be other plays as you go through the game if it’s going well, where there is a choice, run this play or this play. I think you have to be smart as a staff to where if certain things are going on in games, then you decide, just give him some go-to plays because of the flow of the game. That’s where you say as coaches, you look at what you did, then maybe don’t give him a choice, just do that now and then later on come back and give him a choice. I think that’s what coaching staffs try to do, is try to help the players and us realizing when maybe because the flow of the game is not the way we hoped it was, then maybe we should cut back on the choices and let us make more of the decisions, and vice versa. He doesn’t have the handcuffs on him, I think we put him in a position to make a lot of plays. Heck, he had over 300 yards of offense yesterday with him running and throwing. If I was a fan, I’d be excited about his future. He’s going to be a very good quarterback for a long time. He’s played 10 games now. He’s special, threw some great balls to Kenny Britt. He ran, he had some great runs early when he came out of the pocket. When we called the quarterback draw, he made a great run there. You saw his toughness down by the goal line when he almost got in on his own on the eight-yard run down there in the fourth quarter. This guy wants to win. He takes accountability when he doesn’t do the right stuff, he holds himself to a high standard. People just have to relax and let him play out. We lose as a team, not as one guy. He’s going to be a big part of a lot of wins around here. (on Jake Locker’s turnovers) When you look at what the turnovers are, this game, obviously, both of them hurt us. They were tough times for them to happen. The second time, he is running on the move, and he gets a bad feel for it. He should have been, looking back, yeah, just run the ball. He thought he could get it to Nate (Washington). Nate ended up breaking the wrong way, and obviously, he threw a ball in a spot that normally he wouldn’t throw it on the run. I think last week, I think one of the picks was a throwaway, was at the end of the game. When I say picks, I mean Nate caught the ball and he fumbled it up in the air, it’s a pick. It’s not necessarily that the quarterback threw a bad ball. When you just call out turnovers, you have to see what happened on that play and what the cause was. Yesterday, the game we’re talking about here, no doubt, he threw two balls that hurt us. One turns into seven points, and one gave them a three-point play. Those are ones he wants back, and hopefully he’ll limit those. (on if fault can be assigned to Nate Washington or Jake Locker on the second interception) No, you can’t blame either one. It’s just that it happens in a split second. He’s making a split-second decision and the reality is we’ll say, ‘The next time…,’ just like earlier in the game right before the half, what did he do? He kept the ball. I looked at the film and Kendall (Wright) comes wide open in the film on that play before half that he ran, that was actually our only sack of the game. He decided, ‘I’m going to run because I’m going to get three points,’ so he didn’t turn the ball over there. He could have thrown a touchdown pass, but he could have thrown a pick there. You never know when you’re running. I don’t think it’s anyone’s fault. He’s got to make the decision if someone’s not open and obvious, run, and maybe he would have gotten a first down there. He decided he thought he could stick it in there, so it’s not anyone’s fault. He ended up making the decision that turned out to be a bad one. (on if Jake Locker is losing confidence by not finishing games with wins) I think we’re just all upset we didn’t win, and I think we all take responsibility for what we could have done to finish the game when you don’t win. I think quarterbacks tend to take more, coaches take more, coordinators, head coaches, because your quarterback touches the ball, obviously, every snap so he feels more responsible when you don’t win, but there’s a lot of things in that game, that you need everyone to contribute to win a football game at the end. It’s not all on the quarterback to finish the game, and as a team, they have to finish a game better than you’re finishing them. Like I said, there’s a lot of great things in that game that are going to be fun, things that you’re going to continue to see. We talked a little bit about the defense, and some of the plays that Jake (Locker) is making, seeing Kenny Britt go for about 150 and run about as good as he has in a game. I think that was exciting to see, so there’s a lot of things pointing in that direction. The bottom line is when we have some easy plays to make and some ways to put games away, we haven’t done that. (on how close Jake Locker is to putting together a game-winning drive) We feel like it should happen every week. Like that game yesterday, the one last week, we assume it’s something that he shouldn’t have to get close to. He should be ready to go. He’s our starter, he should be able to finish games if we need to. He should make plays, the guys around him have to make plays. You learn from your mistakes. It’s a tough time we’re going through, there’s no doubt. When you’re losing, it’s difficult, but I think we’re doing a good job. If you were in our locker room at halftime, we came out ready to play, we came out, I thought, playing well on a lot of levels. Even though we weren’t making all the plays we wanted to make in that first half, we were up 20-7. I think we were disappointed at halftime, thinking it should have been more. I think that’s the kind of team we have here. Like I said, the second half, we had a chance to put the game away with the mistakes they made. We didn’t capitalize on them, and they capitalized on ours. You want to point to one guy, people always say, ‘Well, the quarterback took them on the drive.’ Guys have to make the right catches, guys have to protect. There are a lot of moving parts there. I know the quarterback gets the blame and the success if you go down and win it. But as a team, we did it three times this year, win games at the end. We have to continue to do that. For some reason, the last two or three weeks, we haven’t been able to do that. http://www.titansonl...06-b67166837924 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 You know. The guy that goes "AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" on Twitter all the time. oh ok. There's the problem. I don't have a twitter account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 There's a 'g' in his name somewhere, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 There's a 'g' in his name somewhere, I think. McRathg? That doesn't look right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 There's a 'g' in his name somewhere, I think. Yeah to start his first name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Some of the more informative coachspeak from Monday's presser (coachspeak because he tries to say nobody is to blame, but informative because sometimes you can read between the lines): (on Derrick Morgan’s performance in the game) I thought it was fun to watch him play. He hit the quarterback I think seven times. When I say hit him, he took him to the ground seven times. He created the turnover for the touchdown, he had a sack. Other than jumping off sides one time, he played as well as a lot of defensive ends can play. He only got the one sack, but he was hitting him a lot and was aggressive and played the run well. To watch that group in general, the defensive line, I thought throughout the game, sacking him four times, all over him, making tough throws, making him earn everything he did upfront. That’s the thing that is encouraging when you watch us play. Especially right now on the defensive side of the ball the last five weeks, I think on third down, we’ve done a great job. Yesterday, we held them to 30 percent on third down, we held them to the least yards they’ve had all year. We were at 24 percent last week against Houston. I think we’re in the top five in the last so many weeks on that, or the top 10 I should say, in the last five weeks. We’re heading in the right direction as far as what we want to accomplish on defense. The bottom line is winning football games, we get that. Guys are playing better. The thing you want to look at when things aren’t going well, maybe on the win, loss, we’re looking at are we getting better? Are players getting better? Are they coming around? They are. That’s why it’s more disappointing when you don’t find a way to win a football game when you feel, especially on that side of the ball that we’re taking about right now, played very well in a lot of ways. Unfortunately, they made some mistakes too, and didn’t make some of the plays that as a defense we had an opportunity to make. You have a fumble on the ball right before half which was an easy pick up. The ball got pulled out, just like you ask. We stripped a guy, the ball is bouncing uncontested, we can’t cover it. That’s a huge play. Then we actually cover a fumble on a third down, but we’re offsides. We cover the fumble on a bad snap, and the game’s over. Those are the things, why the ball bounced that way, why he jumped offsides on that play. For all the good that is going on, those kind of plays are still happening and that’s what takes wins away from you. (on the struggles of the run game on Sunday) I think on both ends, we’re inconsistent in the game. I thought protection was very good for the most part in an environment like that with pass rushers like they have, the speed they have, the crowd noise, silent count, three new players. Jake (Locker) got hit probably twice in the pocket the whole day, maybe three times max. he moved around the pocket a little bit, but compared to what (Andrew) Luck went through at home, that’s a huge difference. Running the ball, we weren’t as consistent as we needed to be. There were times that (Chris Johnson) cut it back way too fast. That’s usually what happens, when things aren’t hitting right, I’m not going to blame it on the offensive line. It was the fullback didn’t block as well as he needed to block, the tight ends, the O-line at times, then CJ, I felt, didn’t run as well as he needed to run. When you watch it, that’s what it was. It needed to be better than it was if we were going to win, take pressure off of the quarterback. I thought that was what they did well yesterday. They couldn’t run the ball at all, and then all of a sudden, in spurts in that third and fourth quarter, they got some runs that took pressure off of their quarterback. If he had to keep dropping back, he may not have made it through the game the way we were attacking up front with that and Jerry (Gray’s) pressures and things like that. We needed to do better in that phase of the game, just to be more efficient. It wasn’t necessarily about our run average or anything. It was more about when you get down to the five-yard line, you have to be efficient and get that ball in there. You can’t lose yards on a first-and-five at the five. Those are things that are hard to take. That’s what shouldn’t happen. That’s up to those guys up front and the group to make sure that doesn’t happen. Worst case, it’s second-and-four at the four, and not second-and-10. They know that, I’m just repeating what they already know. That’s the part of the running game you can’t have. I thought Dowell (Loggains) stayed with the running game well, I thought he mixed it up well, moving the pocket, booted it, called some quarterback runs. We just did a lot of things, especially early, that we should have had more points. We had 20, and it should have been better than that. When you don’t capitalize on plays as we know, and you’re settling for field goals, and you miss fumbles that are on the ground, then it comes down to how come you can’t finish in the fourth quarter? The best way to not have to finish is by taking care of business in the first three quarters and putting the game more ahead than we have the last few weeks. (on at what point should Jake Locker be able to make the right decision on an option play) It’s not handcuffs. That’s the reason why we have the choice, because he’s not handcuffed. But when something doesn’t go right, you think, ‘What’s our part?’ You don’t just say, ‘That’s the player’s fault. He knows how to do that.’ I think sometimes the coach’s issue is that Jake (Locker) knows on that play he had an option, he did the wrong thing. It’s something that he’s done since he’s been here. On our behalf as coaches, it’s not excusing him from blame. He wished, obviously, he did not make that play. On our side, we look at it that in certain games, maybe in just that time of that game, where we were in the situation, just run the snake. You take out the chance of getting a six-yard completion, usually we feel that is a gimme if they’re playing way off. That’s where you’re looking. If he was handcuffed, we wouldn’t even allow that. That wouldn’t be called. We feel he can handle everything in the offense, that’s why we do what we do. We have him moving around, we have him checking plays, we have him making decisions because we feel he can handle that. We don’t want to make it too complicated for him. We made sure the routes, some cutbacks in some of the gray areas there. In certain protections, we make sure he’s not going to have to always adjust protections, that things are built into where during a game, you’re not putting pressure on him every snap to check protections, where every so often you do that. You don’t want to do that every snap where you’re putting pressure on a quarterback. Same thing in the run game, we’ll do some checks. We’ll call plays where he can run no matter what happens. It doesn’t matter what the Colts are doing, that’s a good play, let it go. Then there may be other plays as you go through the game if it’s going well, where there is a choice, run this play or this play. I think you have to be smart as a staff to where if certain things are going on in games, then you decide, just give him some go-to plays because of the flow of the game. That’s where you say as coaches, you look at what you did, then maybe don’t give him a choice, just do that now and then later on come back and give him a choice. I think that’s what coaching staffs try to do, is try to help the players and us realizing when maybe because the flow of the game is not the way we hoped it was, then maybe we should cut back on the choices and let us make more of the decisions, and vice versa. He doesn’t have the handcuffs on him, I think we put him in a position to make a lot of plays. Heck, he had over 300 yards of offense yesterday with him running and throwing. If I was a fan, I’d be excited about his future. He’s going to be a very good quarterback for a long time. He’s played 10 games now. He’s special, threw some great balls to Kenny Britt. He ran, he had some great runs early when he came out of the pocket. When we called the quarterback draw, he made a great run there. You saw his toughness down by the goal line when he almost got in on his own on the eight-yard run down there in the fourth quarter. This guy wants to win. He takes accountability when he doesn’t do the right stuff, he holds himself to a high standard. People just have to relax and let him play out. We lose as a team, not as one guy. He’s going to be a big part of a lot of wins around here. (on Jake Locker’s turnovers) When you look at what the turnovers are, this game, obviously, both of them hurt us. They were tough times for them to happen. The second time, he is running on the move, and he gets a bad feel for it. He should have been, looking back, yeah, just run the ball. He thought he could get it to Nate (Washington). Nate ended up breaking the wrong way, and obviously, he threw a ball in a spot that normally he wouldn’t throw it on the run. I think last week, I think one of the picks was a throwaway, was at the end of the game. When I say picks, I mean Nate caught the ball and he fumbled it up in the air, it’s a pick. It’s not necessarily that the quarterback threw a bad ball. When you just call out turnovers, you have to see what happened on that play and what the cause was. Yesterday, the game we’re talking about here, no doubt, he threw two balls that hurt us. One turns into seven points, and one gave them a three-point play. Those are ones he wants back, and hopefully he’ll limit those. (on if fault can be assigned to Nate Washington or Jake Locker on the second interception) No, you can’t blame either one. It’s just that it happens in a split second. He’s making a split-second decision and the reality is we’ll say, ‘The next time…,’ just like earlier in the game right before the half, what did he do? He kept the ball. I looked at the film and Kendall (Wright) comes wide open in the film on that play before half that he ran, that was actually our only sack of the game. He decided, ‘I’m going to run because I’m going to get three points,’ so he didn’t turn the ball over there. He could have thrown a touchdown pass, but he could have thrown a pick there. You never know when you’re running. I don’t think it’s anyone’s fault. He’s got to make the decision if someone’s not open and obvious, run, and maybe he would have gotten a first down there. He decided he thought he could stick it in there, so it’s not anyone’s fault. He ended up making the decision that turned out to be a bad one. (on if Jake Locker is losing confidence by not finishing games with wins) I think we’re just all upset we didn’t win, and I think we all take responsibility for what we could have done to finish the game when you don’t win. I think quarterbacks tend to take more, coaches take more, coordinators, head coaches, because your quarterback touches the ball, obviously, every snap so he feels more responsible when you don’t win, but there’s a lot of things in that game, that you need everyone to contribute to win a football game at the end. It’s not all on the quarterback to finish the game, and as a team, they have to finish a game better than you’re finishing them. Like I said, there’s a lot of great things in that game that are going to be fun, things that you’re going to continue to see. We talked a little bit about the defense, and some of the plays that Jake (Locker) is making, seeing Kenny Britt go for about 150 and run about as good as he has in a game. I think that was exciting to see, so there’s a lot of things pointing in that direction. The bottom line is when we have some easy plays to make and some ways to put games away, we haven’t done that. (on how close Jake Locker is to putting together a game-winning drive) We feel like it should happen every week. Like that game yesterday, the one last week, we assume it’s something that he shouldn’t have to get close to. He should be ready to go. He’s our starter, he should be able to finish games if we need to. He should make plays, the guys around him have to make plays. You learn from your mistakes. It’s a tough time we’re going through, there’s no doubt. When you’re losing, it’s difficult, but I think we’re doing a good job. If you were in our locker room at halftime, we came out ready to play, we came out, I thought, playing well on a lot of levels. Even though we weren’t making all the plays we wanted to make in that first half, we were up 20-7. I think we were disappointed at halftime, thinking it should have been more. I think that’s the kind of team we have here. Like I said, the second half, we had a chance to put the game away with the mistakes they made. We didn’t capitalize on them, and they capitalized on ours. You want to point to one guy, people always say, ‘Well, the quarterback took them on the drive.’ Guys have to make the right catches, guys have to protect. There are a lot of moving parts there. I know the quarterback gets the blame and the success if you go down and win it. But as a team, we did it three times this year, win games at the end. We have to continue to do that. For some reason, the last two or three weeks, we haven’t been able to do that. http://www.titansonl...06-b67166837924 I would think that goes for failed drives, 3rd downs, and 2 minute drills as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah, according to Munchak you can't blame Locker for the second interception... because he shouldn't have thrown it and made a bad decision. That's coach-speak to protect the young QB, and he wasn't even talking about this last game's interception, but highlight what you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah to start his first name. I'll oman here and thank you for the assist. I knew there was a 'g' somewhere. Looks like I wasn't wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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