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I am 100% sure there are highly intelligent and civilised beings somewhere in the universe.     I am also 99.999% sure these guys who say there are aliens cutting about on earth are hil

This one still makes me laugh  

People hate to have common sense get in the way of a wanted-to-be-held belief.

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5 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

“I know a guy who knows a guy who says we have proof of aliens!”

 

Let me know when we have evidence…

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Did you watch the hearing? That isn't what was said at all, or really anything like it. 

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3 minutes ago, abenjami said:

UFO does not necessarily mean aliens.

Ergo the question mark. If you watch the hearing all 3 believe it is outside human capacity the technology they've seen (2 pilots) and the first hand accounts they've been given (Grusch). It doesn't mean they're correct. 

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Typically, I dismiss conspiracy theories because 1) there's little merit from any sort of science 2) there's no reason to cover it up 3) it's wackos trying to sell something else beyond their conspiracy 4) people spouting it are stupid 5) people can't keep secrets

 

This is one of those rare ones where it really upends that criteria. Things make a little too much sense, but society is wholly incapable of processing even the possibility right now. 

 

Not saying "yes". Not saying "no". But I think arrogance/ignorance only allow for a staunch response of "no"

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We have already seen military videos of UFOs that came out a couple of years ago and experts pretty thoroughly debunked most of it.
 


There are things out there beyond simple sensor glitches, uncalibrated lenses, and odd angles of course. But mostly it is going to come down to next gen drones and cutting edge skunkworks aircraft that we either will never hear about or won’t for 20 years after they have been in service.
 

It’s not going to be aliens. And if you want to convince someone of extraordinary things like aliens then you are going to need extraordinary evidence to back it up. And if you think people in government could keep a secret like that then you might as well believe that 9/11 was an inside job…

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Agreed, it'll need extraordinary evidence to prove it, which is proper science.

 

There's just a little too much smoke to not entertain the idea. Mathematics/statistics already lean towards the fact without physical evidence. 

 

But saying it's not a very distinct possibility is akin to laughing at Galileo before his theories were fully proven out. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Strunk'sDessert said:

Agreed, it'll need extraordinary evidence to prove it, which is proper science.

 

There's just a little too much smoke to not entertain the idea. Mathematics/statistics already lean towards the fact without physical evidence. 

 

But saying it's not a very distinct possibility is akin to laughing at Galileo before his theories were fully proven out. 

 

I personally don't care one way or another, but I have always found the topic very interesting. Regardless, this was an open hearing from three accredited members of the military who said what they've encountered or have first hand accounts of cannot be explained by any known human phenomena. 

 

Like you said, to discard that is the opposite of the pursuit of truth and science. 

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Yeah, I don't have a dog in the hunt by any means.

 

Won't upend my world if it's not real, but the pieces are there for it to quickly and/or quietly unfold into fact, depending on further information that comes out. 

 

I liken it into an anthill in South America not thinking there could be an anthill Africa then raise that to an exponent that's difficult to grasp. 

 

But TBD... with an open and discerning mind. 

 

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