President - America First -Trump lets US companies sell 280 million N95 masks, per day, to foreign buyers

[Rogue]

50 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

You are correct my friend. Therefore they should have been on the frontlines of social distancing. But alas,

they weren't.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-nyc-leaders-endangering-public-coronavirus

 

 

Are you seeing anyone on here say Bill de Blasio and others didn't screw up in NYC?   

 

And how, exactly, do you think de Blasio's comments were worse than Trump's (POTUS, if you forgot)?  

 

 

 

[abenjami]

 

 

[pat]

On 4/2/2020 at 12:00 AM, LongTimeFan said:

Texas, bitch. Where we can still use common sense and not get each other infected. 

 

The next day this article comes out, suggesting that Texas is significantly under counting cases.

 

Houston hasn't reported a surge of coronavirus cases. But its hospitals tell a different story.
A jump in hospital admissions suggests that most coronavirus cases have gone undetected in America's fourth biggest city.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1175291

[WG53]

Texas and common sense? Lol you fucking wish. 

[OILERMAN]

Deflect, deny and excuse 

[abenjami]

The CEO of 3M is on CNBC right now doing a live interview and he's destroying this false narrative.

[LongTimeFan]

17 minutes ago, abenjami said:

The CEO of 3M is on CNBC right now doing a live interview and he's destroying this false narrative.

Which false narrative? (Seriously not sure what you mean)

I caught some of the interview and he said the had very reputable distributors and he was keeping an eye on them, but never said he instructed them to sell to US first. Also said some of these brokers selling to cash buyers could have had their own stockpile.

I am sure the truth lies in the middle somewhere. I think he said most of the exports went to Canada and Latin America. 

[abenjami]

The false narrative that Trump was behind selling these masks to foreign countries.

[9 Nines]

1 hour ago, abenjami said:

The false narrative that Trump was behind selling these masks to foreign countries.

 

He could have exercised federal law to prevent the foreign sales. 

[abenjami]

8 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

 

He could have exercised federal law to prevent the foreign sales. 

 

As mentioned by the CEO of 3M, the bulk of the foreign sales were done by distributors who had already previously purchased the masks from 3M.

 

 

[IsntLifeFunny]

35 minutes ago, abenjami said:

 

As mentioned by the CEO of 3M, the bulk of the foreign sales were done by distributors who had already previously purchased the masks from 3M.

 

 

9s point stands. As long as those masks were not already contracted at the time Trump issued the directive they could not have sold them to foreign buyers without the government having first dibs. Notice Trump signed an executive order doing just this, except he did it 2 months too late. 

[abenjami]

23 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

9s point stands. As long as those masks were not already contracted at the time Trump issued the directive they could not have sold them to foreign buyers without the government having first dibs. Notice Trump signed an executive order doing just this, except he did it 2 months too late. 

 

9's point stands for those specific masks but that isn't my point.  The CEO of 3M explained doing this would be a bad idea because although it would keep some masks here, it would result in the decrease of net masks available here.  Here is a direct quote:

 

“In addition, ceasing all export of respirators produced in the United States would likely cause other countries to retaliate and do the same, as some have already done,” 3M added. “If that were to occur, the net number of respirators being made available to the United States would actually decrease.”

 

I am guessing you have seen that China allowed the Patriots team plane to export 1.2 million masks to the US the other day.  3M has also secured approval from China to export to the U.S. 10 million more masks that were manufactured by 3M in China.

 

There are so many things people should be ripping Trump for but this is not one of them.

[IsntLifeFunny]

17 minutes ago, abenjami said:

 

9's point stands for those specific masks but that isn't my point.  The CEO of 3M explained doing this would be a bad idea because although it would keep some masks here, it would result in the decrease of net masks available here.  Here is a direct quote:

 

“In addition, ceasing all export of respirators produced in the United States would likely cause other countries to retaliate and do the same, as some have already done,” 3M added. “If that were to occur, the net number of respirators being made available to the United States would actually decrease.”

 

I am guessing you have seen that China allowed the Patriots team plane to export 1.2 million masks to the US the other day.  3M has also secured approval from China to export to the U.S. 10 million more masks that were manufactured by 3M in China.

 

There are so many things people should be ripping Trump for but this is not one of them.

He is making a false equivalence. The law doesn’t state that all exports are shutdown. It does nothing of the sort. It merely gives th federal government first dibs. Once they’re stocked the companies can trade with whomever they wish. 

[abenjami]

4 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

He is making a false equivalence. The law doesn’t state that all exports are shutdown. It does nothing of the sort. It merely gives th federal government first dibs. Once they’re stocked the companies can trade with whomever they wish. 

 

Yes, I understand that.  It's not a false equivalence, and it also would have depended on these much smaller distributors to comply with the law (doubtful IMO).

[IsntLifeFunny]

1 minute ago, abenjami said:

 

Yes, I understand that.  It's not a false equivalence, and it also would have depended on these much smaller distributors to comply with the law (doubtful IMO).

Yes, it is a false equivalence because he’s acting as if exports would be shutdown and starting his opinion from there. Since that isn’t the case his entire point is without merit. Exports wouldn’t shutdown.