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7 hours ago, WG53 said:

VY was never selected to the pro bowl. He was an injury replacement.

Semantics. He has 2 pro bowls to his name. Mariota has 0. Mariota has better passing stats. And well even though its not a stat, we all know damn well Mariota is more mature and smart. Young still has a better record, more awards, and pro bowls. People need to stop hating on Young. He took a team that was 0-6 and went 8-2. That and his rookie year he played good ball for a rather unimpressive team. 

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3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

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lol. you really cant appreciate him salvaging a season after we got our asses beat by the Pats 56-0? That Patriots game is known as the greatest ass whipping in modern football. I am damn glad Bud forced Fisher to start Young after that and get us to 8-8. Otherwise we might have been the 0-16 Lions before they got the chance. 

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1 hour ago, GOAT9 said:

Semantics. He has 2 pro bowls to his name. Mariota has 0. Mariota has better passing stats. And well even though its not a stat, we all know damn well Mariota is more mature and smart. Young still has a better record, more awards, and pro bowls. People need to stop hating on Young. He took a team that was 0-6 and went 8-2. That and his rookie year he played good ball for a rather unimpressive team. 

He's a flop that's why he flopped. 

 

Fuck his winning record.

 

Kerry Collins had a great record too in 2009. He sucked too.

 

None of the stuff you're talking about matters if the guy falls apart in two years.

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1 hour ago, JoelinBellevue said:

More like the team carried him. Such hero worship. Mr. Warrior managed 1 TD against the Bills and Rams. You are easily impressed. If you had any sense and read the thread I admitted to throwing a few Boos his way. What does that mean Sherlock? That I was there in person. Grow a brain.

He was not the same QB in 1999 as he was from 2001-2003.  My opinion of McNair as a QB has dropped over the years but he was a top flight QB in those days.  Could he have been better?  Probably.  I don’t think he was the world’s greatest passer.  But there’s no doubt that, at least from week 6 of 2002 until week 12 of 2003 when he suffered the injury at Atlanta that he was a top flight QB.

 

If you’re going to use how he played in 1999 to evaluate his career then you’re missing the boat.

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9 hours ago, big2033 said:

He's a flop that's why he flopped. 

 

Fuck his winning record.

 

Kerry Collins had a great record too in 2009. He sucked too.

 

None of the stuff you're talking about matters if the guy falls apart in two years.

Kerry Collins had a losing record as a Titan.... I assume youre talking about the 2008 team. The one where we went 13-3. Anybody here knows that had everything to do with Haynesworth and the defense. 

 

Vince took a team that was 0-6 and went 8-2. Literally the Titans weren't winning a game until he played. He was the factor that changed that. Collins did nothing of the sort. 

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44 minutes ago, scine09 said:

Anyone who uses the pro bowl stat to use as part of an argument is clueless.  Tyrod Taylor made the Pro Bowl 2 years ago because half the QBs were either injured or uninterested.

Everybody knows the Pro Bowl has changed and the league is struggling to keep anybody interested in it. It still matters. If its so easy then Mariota would have some already. He doesn't have a single one. Injury or not. So while I think Mariota is better than VY, it doesn't change the fact that VY is hated on too much. I mean the only other scenario is Leinart and anybody on here who thinks that would have gone over well is outright stupid. 

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2 hours ago, JoelinBellevue said:

More like the team carried him. Such hero worship. Mr. Warrior managed 1 TD against the Bills and Rams. You are easily impressed. If you had any sense and read the thread I admitted to throwing a few Boos his way. What does that mean Sherlock? That I was there in person. Grow a brain.

you were at the Super Bowl and Music City Miracle huh? I call bullshit. 

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39 minutes ago, GOAT9 said:

Kerry Collins had a losing record as a Titan.... I assume youre talking about the 2008 team. The one where we went 13-3. Anybody here knows that had everything to do with Haynesworth and the defense. 

 

Vince took a team that was 0-6 and went 8-2. Literally the Titans weren't winning a game until he played. He was the factor that changed that. Collins did nothing of the sort. 

Bullshit. The turn around was keyed by defense. VY contributed but he was not the catalyst. I cant fathom how anyone can defend VY at this point. 

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GOAT9 has to be one of the old VY nutswingers right?  Renamed?  Next thing he'll be telling us is that VY didn't miss planes, didn't choose to go back to Austin for shirtless parties instead of working on his game or that he didn't threaten to kill himself!

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