TitanDuckFan Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, heyitsmeallen said: Look at Davis on these 2 plays. If Mariota had more time to throw these are both Touchdowns. The first one maybe, but the 2nd one not so much. Watch the safety back-pedaling from before the snap. He has his eyes on Marcus the whole way. If Marcus launches a pass to hit Davis as he crosses the far hash (the 35 YL) the safety will beat Davis to the ball. The time to release is just about, or right after, the time they freeze it and at that point the safety is still 5-7 yards deeper than Davis. That play has pick written all over it IYAM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Hell, judging by the other gif we can’t even block 6 on 4. I can see why the scheme is thrown off on those situations, but it’s time to adjust. Shotgun does a lot for pass protection. We simply have to show we are an actual threat to run out of it. My biggest problem with Mariota, and I think it’s the staff because he did it his rookie year, is that when he scrambles he is like a bat out of hell instead of moving to find a new platform. I think (think being key) this is what he’s been taught. Teach the fastest QB how to use his speed to draw defenders and then release. Teach him how to navigate the pocket. He’s bailing way too quick because he isn’t trusting anything he sees. He climbed the pocket well on that TD pass to Taylor against Indy. I have no idea why it's become such an issue. I'd also like to see him work on the amount of velocity he's putting on throws (as I've said in the past). He tends to float passes, trying to make them easy for his receivers to catch. And sometimes that hurts him and even results in INT's. I don't recall him doing this against Jacksonville but he definitely did on the INT against the Rams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, scine09 said: He climbed the pocket well on that TD pass to Taylor against Indy. I have no idea why it's become such an issue. I'd also like to see him work on the amount of velocity he's putting on throws (as I've said in the past). He tends to float passes, trying to make them easy for his receivers to catch. And sometimes that hurts him and even results in INT's. I don't recall him doing this against Jacksonville but he definitely did on the INT against the Rams. Scheme related. Against the Colts he was a pure pocket passer. That was the scheme and play design. He adapts very well to what the coaches are asking, which is a problem of sorts and a big deal while also being a positive at the same time. When they ask him to run they’re telling him to bail and protect himself. It’s what got Whiz fired, and I imagine what got Mularkey hired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: My biggest problem with Mariota, and I think it’s the staff because he did it his rookie year, is that when he scrambles he is like a bat out of hell instead of moving to find a new platform. I think (think being key) this is what he’s been taught. Teach the fastest QB how to use his speed to draw defenders and then release. Teach him how to navigate the pocket. He’s bailing way too quick because he isn’t trusting anything he sees. I think that's on Jason Michaels and it's based on Marcus' ability to throw on the move. They're willing to play him that way rather than telling him to look for the closest reset. And in the short/intermediate game that can work. He draws those CBs and FSs in with his run threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: The first one maybe, but the 2nd one not so much. Watch the safety back-pedaling from before the snap. He has his eyes on Marcus the whole way. If Marcus launches a pass to hit Davis as he crosses the far hash (the 35 YL) the safety will beat Davis to the ball. The time to release is just about, or right after, the time they freeze it and at that point the safety is still 5-7 yards deeper than Davis. That play has pick written all over it IYAM. Not if mariota looked him off down low and threw the pass when Davis broke like he was trying to do before the pressure got there. Watch the safety run at the lower route before mariota scrambles. That’s because mariotas eyes went there. If he didn’t have to scramble that look off opens Davis up for the deep ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, heyitsmeallen said: Not if mariota looked him off down low and threw the pass when Davis broke like he was trying to do before the pressure got there. Watch the safety run at the lower route before mariota scrambles. That’s because mariotas eyes went there. If he didn’t have to scramble that look off opens Davis up for the deep ball. Maybe. And maybe someday we'll get to see it work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 15 hours ago, Huston said: Davis is getting massive separation on the deep routes, his speed is legit. Nice to see him showing some of what made him a special prospect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 19 hours ago, tgo said: Right, and that’s exactly what they did for the three games prior to the Jags game. This is untrue. The game where Mariota ran a ton of no-huddle and looked to be calling the plays at the line was the best he looked all year... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, japan said: This is untrue. Wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, tgo said: Wrong. Again, only one game did they run a ton of no-huddle and Mariota called the plays at the line. Maybe it was the SF game and not the LA game. But, they only did it 'a shit ton' once this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, japan said: Again, only one game did they run a ton of no-huddle and Mariota called the plays at the line. Maybe it was the SF game and not the LA game. But, they only did it 'a shit ton' once this season. Not just talking about no huddle, talking about spread concepts, shotgun, three-wide sets (non bunch), etc. So maybe we're not talking about exactly the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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