Given Offseason Investment at WR, Does Offense Change More Than Anticipated?

[titanruss]

21 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Have a little faith man. I hated the hire, more than most on the board. I railed against it. If we make it to the playoffs then we are a team no one wants to face, and having a true identity of being brawlers goes with what teams will fear in the winter. If we give up some short term explosion to fine tune a team that can hurt people when it's four degrees outside then so be it. 

Mularkey has been handed the most talented team he's ever coached. He's being evaluated. If MM stays healthy and we don't win the south then he's on the hotseat. If he does win it then he's doing his job. He's in that group with most coaches, but he's awful at challenges and in game adjustments while obviously being a huge positive on the culture change. The team has bought in, but if he doesn't show results in the next couple years then don't think Robinson won't make a power play. We are in a good place right now. Enjoy it man. It's been a long time since things have looked up.

i have faith. i do. i just have urgency too. with a little urgency, better game planning and motivation, this was a playoff team last year. they didnt overachieve.. they out did many expectations... but once you saw the talent and marcus, they underachieved. 

i know it will get there with marcus at the helm and jrob filling the holes. the staff doesnt matter a ton as long as there's stability... which they do well. i think they are solid but not great which is likely all we need but i'm still going to call them out for it. 

like i've said many times. 1 superbowl would be awesome... but it would be a near waste of mariotas career if its just 1. 

[Face]

4 hours ago, freakingeek said:

We've also heard a lot of praise out of OTAs about D Henry looking much faster and catching the well out of the backfield, not just just short stuff, but 40 yards down the field. We have some serious weapons this season.

Have they said Henry looks faster? Cause he's already very fast, if he got a step or two quicker he's going to be a monster load.

[EagleEye]

27 minutes ago, Face said:

Have they said Henry looks faster? Cause he's already very fast, if he got a step or two quicker he's going to be a monster load.

They did say that in some interviews and if you were to watch some of the OTA videos, he looked much faster in drills.

[big2033]

2 hours ago, titanruss said:

yeah thats all good mate. you brought nothing to the table.. everyone knew that shit. 

the problem was the delay of about 4 weeks progressing last season. they altered the offense, got rid of some shitty plays,  then and things improved. i believe you said at the time it was because of kendall wright!! haha.. then they attempted to reincorporate the shit plays from the first 4 weeks towards the end of the year and we got destroyed by a terrible jaguars team. 

"oh hey when we get more pass weapons we will change to a more passing offense" no joke??? 

 

 

 

Still bitter about that "L" huh?

So let me get this straight lol ... when the offense struggles it's the old shitty Mularkey plays ... when it does well ... its from the new @titanruss approved playbook?

Makes 100% sense.

You think if you keep digging you'll somehow smell like roses after all this ... you'll just smell like dirt. So stop.

[begooode]

1 hour ago, titanruss said:

i have faith. i do. i just have urgency too. with a little urgency, better game planning and motivation, this was a playoff team last year. they didnt overachieve.. they out did many expectations... but once you saw the talent and marcus, they underachieved.

Culture changes are easy?

[big2033]

4 minutes ago, begooode said:

Culture changes are easy?

He's still trying to win 2016 arguments ... pay it no mind.

[titanruss]

1 hour ago, begooode said:

Culture changes are easy?

no, offensive adjustments are easy.

[titanruss]

1 hour ago, big2033 said:

Still bitter about that "L" huh?

So let me get this straight lol ... when the offense struggles it's the old shitty Mularkey plays ... when it does well ... its from the new @titanruss approved playbook?

Makes 100% sense.

You think if you keep digging you'll somehow smell like roses after all this ... you'll just smell like dirt. So stop.

bitter about what? you stating the sun is going to come up and claiming credit? you just flat stated the obvious and tried to act like you were smart for it. go beat off to yourself in the corner with the easily impressed folk of the world.

everyone who has ever watched a football game knows the way to groom a young QB is protect them and get a run game going. but you have to advance when you are seeing you are playing with advanced pieces. you cant max protect and run 1-2 routes and expect them to work or run 4 guys into the same area and same depth. we did that and often... and then the coaches flat said that they break the season into quarters and dont change anything until one of those quarters is up. miraculously the offense play-calling was different after game 4. 

 

overall, mularkeys playbook is fine. its was the playcalling that was an issue. it took them a while but they fixed it mostly - after week 4.... then foolishly reverted back to it later in the season at terrible times and it caused issues. they forgot what their QB did the last 8 weeks... and then tried to be sneaky with the same shit plays that didnt work earlier in the year. 

 

 

[titanruss]

1 hour ago, big2033 said:

He's still trying to win 2016 arguments ... pay it no mind.

LOL... look who's talking

[Face]

2 hours ago, big2033 said:

Still bitter about that "L" huh?

So let me get this straight lol ... when the offense struggles it's the old shitty Mularkey plays ... when it does well ... its from the new @titanruss approved playbook?

Makes 100% sense.

You think if you keep digging you'll somehow smell like roses after all this ... you'll just smell like dirt. So stop.

This blew my mind last year. I had no problem with any of the posters who didn't like Mularkey's system & expressed why, it led to some good conversation. But then it just got old & petty when they started claiming that the midseason offensive explosion was due to Mularkey making the changes they were screaming for all season. It was ridiculous. The offense took of because Marcus improved, Matthews took over full time, and they started taking advantage of the open deep looks that the running game provided. Period. 

[NashvilleNinja]

Hey, @Jonboy... just so you don't forget the feels:

 

 

 

 

[OILERMAN]

2 hours ago, Face said:

This blew my mind last year. I had no problem with any of the posters who didn't like Mularkey's system & expressed why, it led to some good conversation. But then it just got old & petty when they started claiming that the midseason offensive explosion was due to Mularkey making the changes they were screaming for all season. It was ridiculous. The offense took of because Marcus improved, Matthews took over full time, and they started taking advantage of the open deep looks that the running game provided. Period. 

4 games was too long for the new offense to kick in!

It was at least entertaining watching the retards squirm when the offense was exploding

[GFTitans]

On 6/18/2017 at 11:18 PM, Jonboy said:

So last offseason after the hiring of Mularkey, there were pretty big debates about if his offensive system was the best for Mariota. This continued throughout the season here on this board, as well as twitter, reddit, and other places fans gather. Regardless of where you came down on this debate, pretty much everyone agreed the offense changed throughout the seaso

Does it really need to change with new receivers?  Our passing  game would have been excellent given guys who could catch better.  It appears we now have some guys who will catch more than the perfect balls.  Looks like we now have a couple that will catch most "catchable" balls.  This will make a bigger impact by itself.  With our run game and tough team identity, I say it won't change abruptly. It doesn't need to.  

[dannynj]

On 6/19/2017 at 5:10 AM, OILERMAN said:

 

I'd also expect the offense to be much more versatile in terms of attacking defensive weaknesses. If the game plan calls for more spread type stuff they'll likely go that way more often.

I think schematically, the Titans could be very similar to or eventually evolve to the Patriots in that one week they could run the ball 45 times and the following throw it just as much. 

Robinson has built an offensive line that's become one of the best in the league and now over two off seasons stockpiled some impressive depth and unique match up issues for any team they face. 

[titanruss]

6 hours ago, Face said:

This blew my mind last year. I had no problem with any of the posters who didn't like Mularkey's system & expressed why, it led to some good conversation. But then it just got old & petty when they started claiming that the midseason offensive explosion was due to Mularkey making the changes they were screaming for all season. It was ridiculous. The offense took of because Marcus improved, Matthews took over full time, and they started taking advantage of the open deep looks that the running game provided. Period. 

marcus improved because the offense changed. 

and then we promptly played like 4 shitty teams in a row. 

then 5 of our last 6 games our offense looked like shit. 

 

mularkey should get credit for protecting marcus but it still wasnt elite for the line we had and the effort he put into protecting him. there are many ways to protect a QB... one of which our QB happened to already be elite at.. and we ignore that method.