wiscotitansfan Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, JakePA_Titan said: The Steelers and Ravens were respectable for years throughout Brady's career. Peyton Manning..... Name one person that's equal to LeBron in the East throughout his career. He joined the only one close to him in Wade. We've already gone over this... You deny it but you'd still hate LeBron had Wade and Bosh come to CLE. Every single successful team in the NBA has had a relatively stacked star studded team. Your next argument is that he has too many losses for his plethora of championship appearances. Jordan and other greats have been stopped by the competition throughout the history of the league. Why do you act like it is worse for your legacy to lose in the finals? Either scenario results in steam rolling everyone and doing your job until you face some real competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Cool. So you would or would not hate LeBron if he was able to recruit Wade and Bosh. You must think much lesser of Durant at least, I don't care what you think of Curry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherLogic Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 If MJ had gotten blown out in the finals multiple times, nowhere near as many people would be calling him the GOAT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 14 hours ago, abenjami said: Depends who else is on the team. Great point, LeBron needs someone to pass the ball to in the last two minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 hours ago, HigherLogic said: If MJ had gotten blown out in the finals multiple times, nowhere near as many people would be calling him the GOAT. Probably. Just goes to show how dumb people are collectively (assuming you're referring to getting blown out the years he got beat by the Pistons and Pacers too I believe) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigherLogic Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 hours ago, wiscotitansfan said: Probably. Just goes to show how dumb people are collectively (assuming you're referring to getting blown out the years he got beat by the Pistons and Pacers too I believe) I just see that as the most common argument for Jordan being the greatest, is that he never lost in the finals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, HigherLogic said: I just see that as the most common argument for Jordan being the greatest, is that he never lost in the finals. Oh I know. It's a ridiculous thought, just like there are people saying Montana is better than Brady for his 5-0 record compared to a 5-2 if I remember correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I was obviously wrong about Curry, but LeBron is nowhere near Jordan. Just go back and watch film of the guy. He would eat James for lunch, and it wouldn't be close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 LeBron's biggest downfall IMO is that he's too much of a team player. Too often he doesn't act like the best player on the court and shoot the ball himself. He looks to pass too much. It's funny to find fault in a guy for this, as it's usually the opposite with most players. But in LeBron's case it's totally true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, abenjami said: LeBron's biggest downfall IMO is that he's too much of a team player. Too often he doesn't act like the best player on the court and shoot the ball himself. He looks to pass too much. It's funny to find fault in a guy for this, as it's usually the opposite with most players. But in LeBron's case it's totally true. His downfall is he's an unclutch bitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 12 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: His downfall is he's an unclutch bitch. Like when he ran the floor last year and blocked the shit out of Iguodala? He's had plenty of clutch moments so far in his career. But yeah, not enough of them compared to some other all time great players and definitely in part due to not taking the shots himself in those moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: It was clutch, but it was also assisted thanks to JR slowing down iggy. Also, we all know what he meant by clutch. Not being able to make a damn shot with less than 30-60 seconds left. Kyrie is the one who made the clutch shot. I know it's a two way street, but without Kyries shot Lebrons block means notta. You could say that about just about every clutch shot made in the history of the league. Every situation depended on someone else doing something to put the guy in that position. I wish Lebron would take more clutch shots though. I'd like to see if he makes them or not. His play the last few minutes of game 3 the other night was not how a superstar should play, GOAT or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, abenjami said: Like when he ran the floor last year and blocked the shit out of Iguodala? He's had plenty of clutch moments so far in his career. But yeah, not enough of them compared to some other all time great players and definitely in part due to not taking the shots himself in those moments. He played well last year for three games. I'll give him that. What he did a couple nights ago was a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: Well according to NFL networks top 100 greatest players, Rice is #1. Him and Montana played with each other for 8 years. Wonder how much better Brady's numbers or SB record would be had he had a stud WR for 8 years....just saying. What does any of that have to do with people knocking Brady for having 2 SB losses while giving Montana a boost for a perfect 4-0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, abenjami said: You could say that about just about every clutch shot made in the history of the league. Every situation depended on someone else doing something to put the guy in that position. I wish Lebron would take more clutch shots though. I'd like to see if he makes them or not. His play the last few minutes of game 3 the other night was not how a superstar should play, GOAT or not. If Lebron wanted he could score a ridiculous amount of points. He could drive the lane every play. He is so focused on getting everyone involved it takes away from his dominate ability. Id rather see him take the bad shot than pass it off and see a guy miss like Korver did in game 3 even if it was a good look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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