Btowner Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 17 hours ago, OILERMAN said: The challenge for Trump opponents is not merely that many Trump supporters believe his false claims. It is that supporters are willing to explain away the claims they don’t think are fully accurate. As recently as August 2016, 41% of Republicans still believe Obama was not born in the U.S. A PPP poll in May 2016, reported 27% of Trump supporters think vaccines cause autism, 7% thought Ted Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of JFK and another 5% thought Cruz was the Zodiac killer. At this point, when Trump feeds his base a conspiracy theory or outright lie, you can bet 20-35% of them will believe it without ever questioning its truthfulness. If you try to provide facts, it's fake news and they will ignore any information that contradicts Trump's claims. It's the perfect con. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 I actually find those that admit he lies and don't care to at least be sane. They don't care about all that, they just want to see chaos at the federal level. Not necessarily reasonable or wise, but at least I understand it. It's the Duckies, Little Earls, and Bens of the party that places more validity in what they want to believe above what reality is actually presenting. This is more troubling than those that just don't care if he is lying or not. Apparently this is 60% of the party. Hell, all Trump had to do was tweet "Obama wire tapped me" with multiple people saying there was no evidence to support it, and it got them questioning it to the point of devising conspiracies to cover the bases. One tweet from a conman was all it took. They wanted to believe it, so reality went out the door. One tweet. 60% of the party. They simply do not grasp how controlled they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 50 minutes ago, Rogue said: They simply do not grasp how controlled they are. That's rich dude, really fucking rich. And it would be funny if it weren't so damned sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: That's rich dude, really fucking rich. And it would be funny if it weren't so damned sad. What's sad is you are the conspiracy theorist. Demonstrably so. Even sadder is your don't realize it. Useful idiot? You don't realize it (part of the definition), but that's what you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rogue said: What's sad is you are the conspiracy theorist. Demonstrably so. Even sadder is your don't realize it. Useful idiot? You don't realize it (part of the definition), but that's what you are. Because my head isn't in the sand about obama breaking the law repeatedly, I'm a conspiracy theorist. Like I said, that's really fucking rich. And I'll bet you believe obama had a scandal-free 8 years too. So sad, so god, damned, sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: Because my head isn't in the sand about obama breaking the law repeatedly, I'm a conspiracy theorist. Like I said, that's really fucking rich. And I'll bet you believe obama had a scandal-free 8 years too. So sad, so god, damned, sad. It's fine. Your MO is well established. There's nothing I'm obligated to say to improve your credibility. That's on you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 6 hours ago, TitanDuckFan said: Because my head isn't in the sand about obama breaking the law repeatedly, I'm a conspiracy theorist. Like I said, that's really fucking rich. And I'll bet you believe obama had a scandal-free 8 years too. So sad, so god, damned, sad. I used to have a lot of respect for you. I read that whole post you put up about the plight of rural America. It really touched me and help me to see why some people really thought Trump would help. Why they felt so left out by the rest of the country. You would type out huge posts explaining your position. But now, in the face of overwhelming evidence that some strangeness is going on, you babble out a few lines and resort to cussing. Sad. This is our country. America. Trump is disrespecting us by telling us lies to our face. Not an alternative facts. Just a straight up lies. And you are still defending him by blaming Obama. I guess I was very wrong about you. Still, I believe people can change. The one thing about you I saw was sincerity. Time now for America, all of us to be about the Truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamlngEnvy Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 The truth is I told y'all fanboys are never good right bout mettenkingberger right about old ass fangrandpa ducky same side of different coins lolol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Number9 said: Time now for America, all of us to be about the Truth. Don't hold your breath. Ask for the facts. Truth is a product of perspective. Hitler's and Goering's "truth" was a lot different than Churchill's and Ike's. Just like Custer's truth would have sounded a lot different than Sitting Bull's truth. Did you believe Hank Paulson's "truth?" Tim Geithner's "truth?" I didn't, anymore than I did George Bush's truth. But I understand where those perspectives came from. How we got here involves some truth telling as well as some lies. But most of all, I believe it involves a lot of facts that were never disclosed. So it's entirely possible to hear the truth, but end up with a skewed picture of what really happened because some of the very pertinent facts remain hidden. So demand the facts, ALL the facts, and then tell your own truth. I didn't enter this thread to defend the donald, I remarked about people being controlled politically. For the last 8 years I watched an administration and a very cooperative media control one side of the political spectrum as masterfully as has ever been done. And all rogue wants to crow about is how trump's supporters are controlled. And that's horseshit. Don't try to peddle that "scandal-free" crapola and not get called out. That amounts to unparalleled stupidity. But the end result was trump in the White House. Something I neither endorsed nor took part in. We're getting the government we deserve, and I happen to believe it would look/sound and be this way no matter who had won in November. They were both shithouse choices. So flip a coin and demand the facts. I'm sure it will be enlightening. But don't be surprised if it doesn't resemble the shit you've been told was "the truth." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opus74 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Serious weasel words there, duck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 30 minutes ago, Opus74 said: Serious weasel words there, duck. Fuckoff. Pay attention next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanjuicy Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 hours ago, TitanDuckFan said: For the last 8 years I watched an administration and a very cooperative media control one side of the political spectrum as masterfully as has ever been done. Seriously? How well did they control anything with 6 years of a Republican Congress and now fully controlled by Republicans. Don't give me this "people were sick of the Liberal media" bullshit either. If Obama's administration and the Liberal media did this so called "masterful" job, then no one would have been sick of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 On 3/27/2017 at 10:02 PM, Btowner said: As recently as August 2016, 41% of Republicans still believe Obama was not born in the U.S. A PPP poll in May 2016, reported 27% of Trump supporters think vaccines cause autism, 7% thought Ted Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of JFK and another 5% thought Cruz was the Zodiac killer. Ted Cruz was not even alive (born in 1970) when the Kodiak Killer first started killing people (late 1960s.) Edit: looking into it, I found that it started as a joke in 2013 because the sketching of the Zodiak Killer resembled Ted Cruz, then it became an anti-conspiracy meme to make fun of people who believe in conspiracy stuff. So those who believe Ted Cruz is the Zodiak Killer are basically believing in a punch line from a joke making fun of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 41 minutes ago, Titanjuicy said: Seriously? How well did they control anything with 6 years of a Republican Congress and now fully controlled by Republicans. Don't give me this "people were sick of the Liberal media" bullshit either. If Obama's administration and the Liberal media did this so called "masterful" job, then no one would have been sick of it. Look at you, still lapping that stupid shit up. Have you figured out yet, what happened last November? Obama finished with his "great" approval rating, yet the candidate he promised would continue his policies, lost to Donald fucking Trump. And you idiots are still in here every damned day defending him and those shithouse policies. Now you're accusing trump's supporters of being under some weird control. It's baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanjuicy Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: Look at you, still lapping that stupid shit up. Have you figured out yet, what happened last November? Obama finished with his "great" approval rating, yet the candidate he promised would continue his policies, lost to Donald fucking Trump. And you idiots are still in here every damned day defending him and those shithouse policies. Now you're accusing trump's supporters of being under some weird control. It's baffling. Which makes it NOT MASTERFUL, all while you claim Masterful. Not lapping up anything. You need to make up your fucking mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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