OILERMAN Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Face said: It's always coaching, "if only we had so & so as OC". CJ is in the wrong scheme!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anitberger Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 1 hour ago, ThreeBallPaul said: It's not even close at this point as of now he is 10/21 with 2 int and 5.0 ypa. these are young QBs and they will struggle. especially with the shitshow that is malarkey and robiskie running this shit. how anyone can watch the in game strategy and game plan and not be concerned with the coaching is beyond me at this point. not only do they lack receiving talent but they can't even manage key portions of the game correctly. for the second week in a row the end of the first half was an embarrassment especially given the strategy of the team to play defense and grind out games. to give out points like that is inexcusable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Face said: Whatever. Maybe you & 90% of the board are right. I hope you are. I almost don't even care anymore though, Im just worn out by all the losing. Bingo. Watching this shit just isn't fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, Face said: Whatever. Maybe you & 90% of the board are right. I hope you are. I almost don't even care anymore though, Im just worn out by all the losing. But this isn't my first rodeo, we went through all the same shit with VY & Locker. It's always coaching, "if only we had so & so as OC". I wish I felt the same, but I don't. The kid can't even make a play with his legs. Hopefully, but comparing the kid to Locker and VY ends the conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, Face said: Whatever. Maybe you & 90% of the board are right. I hope you are. I almost don't even care anymore though, Im just worn out by all the losing. But this isn't my first rodeo, we went through all the same shit with VY & Locker. It's always coaching, "if only we had so & so as OC". I wish I felt the same, but I don't. The kid can't even make a play with his legs. Personnel is a major issue if course. OL better, but when AJ, who should probably be out of the league, is your end of game go to WR, you have big problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 1 hour ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: Everyone knew retaining Mularkey was a bad idea ... except you and AAS. He knew it and argued against Mularkey all along until it was universally accepted as a stupid thing to do, then he took his normal against the grain prediction likely (ironically) banking on Mariota lifting team regardless of the coach. Now he's stuck. That's not schtick. That's honestly what I think happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Idk about this "scheme panic". When Locker was failing under Munchack's and later Loggains' shitty offense no one really blamed the offense, the board blamed Locker and were right. When Mett started throwing balls into the dirt and averaging more picks than TDs, the board blamed Mett and was right. Now Marcus is struggling under an offense that despite being a bit archaic, allows him time to throw and prevents him from taking the beatings our previous QBs (and he himself) have taken and we're all convinced the scheme is the primary culprit. I've seen him throw way too many bad balls to open guys lately to lay it all or even a majority of the blame at the feet of the staff. The OL is flourishing, the running backs/running game is the best we've seen in over a decade, and the receivers while not perfect ARE getting open ( though not as consistently as I would like). You have to remember that DBs pretty much know what routes our guys are going to run before the play and are jumping everything. It seems to me that almost every offensive position group has taken a step forward while Marcus has visibly regressed. I can't just discount that because I'm afraid of Marcus failing. If it's all the scheme why are so many pulling their weight while Marcus isn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 The OL has a new center, a top 10 RT and extra help every play. They'd better be protecting better. The RBs are additions. Well done GM Mularkey? The WRs are pulling their weight? Give it a rest. This is a false narrative that ignores reality completely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Idk about this "scheme panic". When Locker was failing under Munchack's and later Loggains' shitty offense no one really blamed the offense, the board blamed Locker and were right. When Mett started throwing balls into the dirt and averaging more picks than TDs, the board blamed Mett and was right. Early on scheme as blamed in those situations too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imemtitan Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Early on scheme as blamed in those situations too It's always the coaching(Scheme) and/or WR's fault until the board hits critical mass and turns on the QB with a red hot vengeance of a thousand suns. I don't know what to think about Mariota, weaknesses from last year I hoped to improve (deep ball and pocket presence) haven't improved and what I saw as strengths (decision making and accuracy) have regressed massively. While it does feel slightly different than similar situations with VY and Locker I agree that you'd be lying if you said you weren't at least somewhat concerned with Mariota. Whether it's 100% on him or partially him partially coaching is sure to fuel a lot of stimulating discussion this year. The stimulating part was sarcasm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 3 hours ago, scine09 said: I really have nothing. You posted something this week that's been accurate over the years that I ignore the Titans' QB's deficiencies. But today was a joke and I'm not sure that Mariota's mother can defend it. There's clearly something wrong with him mentally and with his mechanics. Because he never played like this a year ago. I am not putting this on Mularkey at all. If he didn't play like this a year ago then it only logically makes sense to put it all on Mylarkey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Just now, titanruss said: If he didn't play like this a year ago then it only logically makes sense to put it all on Mylarkey. Mularkey isn't throwing passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 27 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Idk about this "scheme panic". When Locker was failing under Munchack's and later Loggains' shitty offense no one really blamed the offense, the board blamed Locker and were right. When Mett started throwing balls into the dirt and averaging more picks than TDs, the board blamed Mett and was right. Now Marcus is struggling under an offense that despite being a bit archaic, allows him time to throw and prevents him from taking the beatings our previous QBs (and he himself) have taken and we're all convinced the scheme is the primary culprit. I've seen him throw way too many bad balls to open guys lately to lay it all or even a majority of the blame at the feet of the staff. The OL is flourishing, the running backs/running game is the best we've seen in over a decade, and the receivers while not perfect ARE getting open ( though not as consistently as I would like). You have to remember that DBs pretty much know what routes our guys are going to run before the play and are jumping everything. It seems to me that almost every offensive position group has taken a step forward while Marcus has visibly regressed. I can't just discount that because I'm afraid of Marcus failing. If it's all the scheme why are so many pulling their weight while Marcus isn't? We ran more of a prostyle offense under Munchak than we have under Mularkey. To hell with discussing the scheme, the play calls are as bad as I've ever watched. Seriously, are you all watching the games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, titanruss said: If he didn't play like this a year ago then it only logically makes sense to put it all on Mylarkey. Not necessarily. Teams are playing him differently. Many of us predicted last season that if he didn't develop his long game, we'd see DB's sitting on every route shorter than 12-15 yards and make him prove he can beat them deep. This is what's happening right now. I'm watching DBs quite literally run our receivers' routes for them in the short-intermediate range. IMO this is simply the result of DCs around the league breaking his tape down over the summer and saying "let's see if this kid can chuck it". So far he hasn't shown he can do it. I think this would've happened regardless of who the coach was or what scheme he ran. They've taken his bread and butter away and he hasn't figured out how to respond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Hopefully, but comparing the kid to Locker and VY ends the conversation. Why? I mean that sincerely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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