IrishTitansFan Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I say it after every mass shooting; If you don't think Guns need to be all but outlawed, you're retarded. What other country does things like this happen in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 2 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: No, but Islam equals ISIS. No it doesnt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: But some people's minds are twisted for different reasons. This guy called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS in the moments before the shooting. I'd say that lends credence to NN's theory that the major news outlets are favoring one agenda over another. The ISIS/Islam narrative SHOULD be the elephant in the room, not gun control. Yet, here we are, getting our people killed by the JV team again, yet crying because normal, law abiding people are allowed to buy semi-auto rifles under constitutional law. I'm sorry, cnn, msnbc, and fox all have that the guy had ISIS ties or pledged allegiance to ISIS on their website and not a single one have gun control, at least not anywhere that is immediately seen regarding the matter. There is no favoring one agenda over another at the moment. They are all reporting the same thing. This is the reality. Will it start a discussion over gun control? Yes, and it should not be surprising that it will. To suggest that discussion will take place in order to take the discussion away from the terrorism aspect is ridiculous. Gun laws WILL be discussed after incidences of terrorism, be it domestic or foreign in origin. There doesn't have to be conspiracies involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: In the other thread they bring up a valid point about grandfathering these weapons and then possibly moving forward with them being illegal. I'm not sure that's the answer, but even if it is it would only help the situation in the future sense. I dont see many solutions to help with this shit in the now. Lol poor Denali. As if the conceal and carry permit covered the fucking assault rifle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: It is a valid point/question to ask if this shooting is centered around this man's faith. If this were a Christian psycho who professed his faith in cleansing homosexuals I guarantee you that would play a large part in the narrative. Sure it's a fair question. That's not what they are suggesting. They are suggesting there is a media agenda trying to disguise it. That's simply not the case in any media I've seen. And suggesting the coming gun control debate is something that would be unusual is conspiracy theory stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, Titanjuicy said: I disagree. He would just be called mentally ill. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 17 minutes ago, Titanjuicy said: I disagree. He would just be called mentally ill. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, oldschool said: No it doesnt. Denali, Duckie, NN, etc equate it all equally, but will correctly dismiss that the KKK equals Christianity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamalisms Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 The "gun debate" isn't a debate. It's just unintended and un-self-recognized admissions of shame and complicity to murder by a large group of Americans. It's heartbreaking when you stop to think about it, so most of the rest of us have stopped thinking about it as often as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I'm confused, what is the suggestion by those in this tread that don't want more gun laws? Is it just ban Islam in the US? If Islam is evil and the enemy, that must be the conclusion, right? You're also declaring war on more than 1.6 billion people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, oldschool said: Lol poor Denali. As if the conceal and carry permit covered the fucking assault rifle. It does if one is not loaded in the chamber. At east that's my understanding of most states' carry law. 26 minutes ago, Titanjuicy said: I disagree. He would just be called mentally ill. Doubtful. If this guy called 911 before he did this act saying he was going to do this because Jesus commanded him then believe it would be a part of the narrative, just as this guy being a radical Islamist is a part of it. It isn't a bad thing, and I agree with you guys that the gun control debate would, and should, be taking place. Hell, this is somewhat changing my mind about moving forward, but I'm still not sure simply outlawing these guns is the answer, but it may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denali Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 19 minutes ago, oldschool said: Lol poor Denali. As if the conceal and carry permit covered the fucking assault rifle. And if it werent an assault rifle it would have been something else. What are you expecting? That we outlaw assault rifles, and for the Islamic terrorist organizations to disband as a result? We're dealing with terrorists. Permits and licenses don't mean a damn thing. I mean, did the 9/11 hijackers need pilots licenses too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Doubtful. If this guy called 911 before he did this act saying he was going to do this because Jesus commanded him then believe it would be a part of the narrative, just as this guy being a radical Islamist is a part of it. Sure, it would be part of the news debate (as it is now), but those that are pointing to Islam right now would be saying, "this guy is clearly crazy" if it were a Christian that did this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Hell, this is somewhat changing my mind about moving forward, but I'm still not sure simply outlawing these guns is the answer, but it may be. It's not the answer. There is no answer. If someone is determined to kill, they will find a way. We just try and find the balance that makes it harder and less effective for them while respecting our gun rights. It's certainly not an easy balance to find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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