Detailed Breakdown of Mariota against the Raiders

[Mythos27]

2 hours ago, oldschool said:

Most aren't being hard on him. Some of us just think he has some things to work on which should be expected for a rookie QB. There is a huge difference between thinking he sucks and thinking he has some flaws that need to be corrected.

It sucks that you have to keep posting some variation of this nearly every day. 

[oldschool]

6 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

It sucks that you have to keep posting some variation of this nearly every day. 

Isn't it? I feel like a broken record.

[Mythos27]

Just now, oldschool said:

Isn't it? I feel like a broken record.

Unfortunately, I see the necessity. You'll probably have to keep doing it for a long time.

[Superhorn]

14 hours ago, Cyrus said:

Looking at the first interception. This is just a out/go route. Safeties rotate very late and Mariota is expecting Amerson to gain depth / carry the receiver. (Man or Cover 3). Even if this is a single high safety I don't think it's obvious that the safeties have rotated either given the formation (3x1). The corner sits in the flat area but still gains some depth. Even though this throw shouldn't have been thrown, I don't think should have been an interception. Wright runs a very poor route and doesn't finish it. A rookie throw but Wright should have been there at the same time and is instead running back towards the sticks after rounding a route and gaining about 2-4 yards extra depth. 

On the last interception, I have no idea what was supposed to happen. Watching it live it looked like he was trying to throw the post over the curl. Still does. Mental mistake somewhere. Wright looks like he's trying to run a double move then just kind of stays put. I honestly can't decipher what's supposed to happen on this play.

They said post game that Wright broke off his route early and wasn't supposed to.

From Mularkey:

(on if Kendall Wright had rust after three weeks out due to injury)

Again, Kendall (Wright) tried to make up something that really wasn’t there. It was the way we designed it. This is what we want. It was not run right. And the second one, he got jammed, and again, I will have to watch, but stopped on the play where the ball was thrown trying to hit down the middle like we hit Delanie (Walker) on the previous play.

Wrong read anyway, though.  Can't throw that ball against a 2 high look.  Ball looked slightly over thrown as well.

[Superhorn]

12 hours ago, Face said:

I think PFF said the same thing about the 2nd pick.

PFF is not to be trusted.  Here's what they said:

Both interceptions where the result of these miscommunications, with Mariota throwing the ball with trust that his receivers were running the same route, but both ended up being picked off, as the receivers ended up running different routes.  The second interception that ended the game was an example of this, as rookie receiver Dorial Green-Beckham ran a curl, but Mariota threw a post route before the break, and it ended up being an easy pick for Oakland.

Problem is that Mularkey came out this week and explicitly said that DGB was not at fault on the final play of the game.

[oldschool]

19 minutes ago, Superhorn said:

PFF is not to be trusted.  Here's what they said:

Both interceptions where the result of these miscommunications, with Mariota throwing the ball with trust that his receivers were running the same route, but both ended up being picked off, as the receivers ended up running different routes.  The second interception that ended the game was an example of this, as rookie receiver Dorial Green-Beckham ran a curl, but Mariota threw a post route before the break, and it ended up being an easy pick for Oakland.

Problem is that Mularkey came out this week and explicitly said that DGB was not at fault on the final play of the game.

PFF is the biggest scam in analytics to date.

[titanruss]

20 minutes ago, Superhorn said:

PFF is not to be trusted.  Here's what they said:

Both interceptions where the result of these miscommunications, with Mariota throwing the ball with trust that his receivers were running the same route, but both ended up being picked off, as the receivers ended up running different routes.  The second interception that ended the game was an example of this, as rookie receiver Dorial Green-Beckham ran a curl, but Mariota threw a post route before the break, and it ended up being an easy pick for Oakland.

Problem is that Mularkey came out this week and explicitly said that DGB was not at fault on the final play of the game.

on the monday press coneference mularky placed more blame on mariota for both of the picks than he did on sunday

[Aramis]

4 hours ago, oldschool said:

Isn't it? I feel like a broken record.

I was about to write this really long post and scrapped it. As to your comment, you know why that is - yes we have some homers who just can't deal with any criticism, but it's down to two culprits that have a good chunk of posters butt hurt by their trolling and can't simply ignore them/gloss over their shit posts.

EDIT: sorry for the off-topic post

[Tim]

7 hours ago, No1TitansFan said:

Receivers not getting open and the rookie QB going through multiple reads and delivering the ball accurately and on time the vast majority of the time while often under duress; don't see how some can be so hard on the kid.

Retardation basically. 

[Downtown]

Either way, this wasn't a stellar game for Mariota. But this does give some insights into what's going on when the Titans offense is failing. 

Give Mariota the tools and we have a winner. Simple as that. We shat the bed into the No. 2 pick and a special QB. Now let's not mess this up. 

[SleepingTitan]

On 12/2/2015, 3:57:07, titansfb said:

Credit goes to Reddit/NFL Breakdown.

Direct Link: http://nflbreakdowns.com/marcus-mariota-vs-raiders/

 

 

I don't agree at all that Wright made the right move to pull up that route. He was motioned to that side for a reason, and Woodson would have never made it to defend the ball. TD. I honestly believe the corner should have gotten at the least an illegal contact for holding up Wright with the ball in the air. I think Wright ran the go and tried to get cute with a hitch (when MM clutches) and didn't come out quick, ran into the corner and just stopped. 

[IsntLifeFunny]

On 12/2/2015, 6:46:03, Cyrus said:

Looking at the first interception. This is just a out/go route. Safeties rotate very late and Mariota is expecting Amerson to gain depth / carry the receiver. (Man or Cover 3). Even if this is a single high safety I don't think it's obvious that the safeties have rotated either given the formation (3x1). The corner sits in the flat area but still gains some depth. Even though this throw shouldn't have been thrown, I don't think should have been an interception. Wright runs a very poor route and doesn't finish it. A rookie throw but Wright should have been there at the same time and is instead running back towards the sticks after rounding a route and gaining about 2-4 yards extra depth. 

On the last interception, I have no idea what was supposed to happen. Watching it live it looked like he was trying to throw the post over the curl. Still does. Mental mistake somewhere. Wright looks like he's trying to run a double move then just kind of stays put. I honestly can't decipher what's supposed to happen on this play.

Wright is running the double move and MM overthrows the spot. If Wright runs through the illegal contact he gets an easy call. Instead, he stops his route short and the refs miss the call  It was a bad throw, but I understand the read. If Wright doesn't cut his route then he has a shot to make a play (without the illegal contact), or he gets an easy DPI.