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That was crazy

Lol the stats without context mentality ha now infected Warren Sharp. What happened to this dude? He used to be better than this.

Its funny how you allow context for Bain and get on people for overvaluing a single rep in camp/preseason but then shit all over Tate for the opposite.... You can't have it both ways.

@TerryBoats took his meds today.

Shocker... @Mythos27 get in here.

I once wiped the floor with the starting Center on Varsity in a pick up game.... he kicked my ass every other time we matched up. Even bad players sometimes make a good play.

@Face Chestnut is fucking terrible and shouldn't even have a roster spot. Spears may not be any good but this stance is crazy.

bingo. We knew Barton sucked in coverage before tonight's game. We learned nothing about what he can do either way. it was already a given. The joint practices carry far more weight. But I'm done trying to convince some preseason homer about the value of it. The way teams treat it is all you need to know if you take the blinders off.

preseason game performance is way down the list of what gets evaluated, especially for veterans... Clearly Saleh doesn't give a shit about what he saw from the 1st team tonight. Now ask yourself why? because he wants to get through it without injuries so they are as close to full strength as possible for the jets in a few weeks.

since you claim to watch tons of preseason football, You are either blind or just have your head in the sand.

he was cooked before that... that game didn't prove anything one way or the other which is my entire point.

pay attention boys, when scine and I agree, its usually for a good reason. In order of importance for camp 1. Joint practices 2. practice 100. preseason games

I wasn't. I laughed when the captain of the bottom 5 started talking about PSG2 and Mariota a few years back. I really don't think fans understand how much game planning, the top 10-20 plays the offense plans to run that week, how the personnel and formation groupings are installed, factor into things. Offenses are basically playing backyard football in these preseason games while spending all week in practice installing their real offense. I wish Saleh had the balls to sit his starters all preseason because he clearly doesn't give a fuck. You could see it on the sidelines. Maybe he was scared of being called soft by not playing them? No idea but if you are going to play your starters against the champs backups, act like you care.

No smoke bro.. I watched the first few drives because I was bored and turned it off. I haven't watched a single snap of any other preseason games. You on the other hand admit to watching tons of preseason. Good luck with that....

The Titans are most likely a bad team and we knew that before this game tonight. If they had looked good tonight, they would still be a bad team. Thats why its means nothing. you can't judge good or bad play based on preseason. Its a scam the NFL sells us and too many fall for it. wait a few weeks, then we can debate what actionable data shows us.

I don't need to. if you can't admit from the jump teams and players give different levels of effort in preseason, then we can't have an honest convo about the value of preseason. Its a prereq for the discussion. You just don't like being called out for watching preseason football around the league. I'd be embarrassed too if I admitted that.

@rns90 gets it. The Teams, coaches, etc... all know its a sham and not a good barometer for anything but you seem to have cracked the code and can grade players all while not being able to tell teams and players are giving different levels of effort?

yes sort of like when little brother wants to show big brother they can ball but then your cousin doesn't try because they are annoyed they are playing with the younger brother. And you claim to coach highschool athletes? you've never seen effort disparity in scrimmages or meaningless games, especially from star players? Thats what preseason is in a nutshell, some guys trying harder than others, usually backups. I wonder why? Actually I don't, I know why.

if Ward is still doing things like this in october, then bitch. Otherwise you need the same lesson mythos just got. Teams aren't showing their real offenses, scheme, plays, route combos etc in these pointless games. Its all vanilla

I'm calling you out which I don't want to do but if you can't tell the difference on the field tonight between the effort levels and the speed the two teams were playing with, you need to get your eyes checked. this isn't real football, sorry to hammer this home but its a fact. Camp used to be about getting players back in shape and acclimated to football. Now players train all year round. Preseason is absolutely worthless, the fact such a smart poster doesn't get it is troubling. The NFL doesn't give a shit about it or the product they are putting out there. Its a shame you are gobbling it up because you missed football for 5 months.

Stop crying, JFC. Saleh doesn't look miserable. He looks like someone who is bored and wants the real games to start.

It was obvious the Seahawks backups wanted to show out and were playing with more aggression, speed, intensity, etc.. whereas the Titans starters aside from Gray, just want to get off the field. Hell even Saleh had that look on on his face. Just further proves the point that when both teams aren't competing, you can't judge anything. If you think Tonight shows why the Seahawks are the champs and the Titans are coming off back to back 3-14 season, you can't be reasoned with.

lol. I already said I'm not defending the Titans nor did I claim they will be good. What I do know is that what happens in preseason games where both teams aren't trying or scheming or maybe one is (like when the Bucs bltized all game against the Titans when Vrabel was coach) doesn't mean shit either way, good or bad. For someone who claims to be able to break down player mechanics and technique in preseason, its amazing you can't tell when players and or teams are playing at different speeds with varying degrees of effort.

Nah this is just you consuming slop because you are a diehard. I can point out countless examples of teams who looked like shit in preseason or made zero effort that went on to be good as well as the opposite scenario. Its useless no matter how much you want it to count or mean something. But you do you. I ignore preseason and will continue to do so.

And its smart posters saying this crap. Thats the sad part.