Jamalisms Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 His play is inconsistent, the deepest level of data I will use. He is young in his career, a point of monumental importance that only I recognize. Therefore I extrapolate and analyze with my scientific-method approved theory that his inconsistent play is because he is young. Why can't more people dig down really deep into these interesting points like me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 His play is inconsistent, the deepest level of data I will use. He is young in his career, a point of monumental importance that only I recognize. Therefore I extrapolate and analyze with my scientific-method approved theory that his inconsistent play is because he is young. Why can't more people dig down really deep into these interesting points like me? Calling his play inconsistent isn't data and isn't intended to be data which is probably part of the problem in your understanding of my and Prag's points. It's a conclusion based on observations. The observations btw is the data. What is your reasoning for his poor play? Or do you just want to keep trying to "prove" that he's played poorly at times? That article is actually a good example of the difference. It lays out what happened decently but that's really it. It says what happened and then it says the Titans struggle in the red zone. That's not an analytical article. It doesn't try to figure out the reasoning. It doesn't try to do any analysis of the plays or find a trend or anything. It just says "hey, they struggled in the redzone. Here's what happened." Thanks! That's rather boring. I saw that live but I appreciate it. It's not that informative to anyone that watched the game. It doesn't actually try to find any trend or figure out why they've been struggling in the redzone. Seriously, why do you think he's played poorly at times? Do you think it's talent? Do you think it's inexperience? Do you think it's coaching or play calling or execution or the players around him? What? Once you actually have a theory and put it out there, we can have an interesting discussion. You seem to think you're on this mission to fight bias or something. News flash! Everyone is bias in some form or fashion. That's not news. Get a theory out there and we'll discuss it and that could actually lead to an interesting conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Actually, bias is expected. The issue is more a dismissal of results, trends in performance compared to others, and the implications which follow because of some purported infinitely better analysis which is never actually presented. It's like a homeless man laughing at the guy driving a Camry because it isn't a Mercedes... and the homeless guy is kinda crazy and keeps calling it a Kia and claims he's got tons of money and a mansion and a beautiful wife... but, no, you can't ever see it all. Just believe him and feel shamed you're in a Kia... that's actually a Camry. Oh, and his Benz is pretty sweet, but again... he's not going to show you because the more important thing is you are in a Kia, that isn't a Kia, which if you are telling the truth and it's actually a Camry then why does it look like a Kia, which it doesn't, and why even own a Camry when you could have a Benz? In fact, the homeless guy has a Benz... did he tell you that? It's way better than your Kia. Why don't you have a Benz? Do you really want to see his Benz? Ok, here it is: A shopping cart that has a cardboard sign on it which reads: "Locker is inexperienced." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Actually, bias is expected. wonderful. we agree that everyone is bias. moving on. The issue is more a dismissal of results, trends in performance compared to others, and the implications which follow because of some purported infinitely better analysis which is never actually presented. Who's dismissing results? Nothing is being dismissed. It's about looking beyond those basic facts. Presenting basic facts isn't analysis. It's like a homeless man laughing at the guy driving a Camry because it isn't a Mercedes... and the homeless guy is kinda crazy and keeps calling it a Kia and claims he's got tons of money and a mansion and a beautiful wife... but, no, you can't ever see it all. Just believe him and feel shamed you're in a Kia... that's actually a Camry. Oh, and his Benz is pretty sweet, but again... he's not going to show you because the more important thing is you are in a Kia, that isn't a Kia, which if you are telling the truth and it's actually a Camry then why does it look like a Kia, which it doesn't, and why even own a Camry when you could have a Benz? In fact, the homeless guy has a Benz... did he tell you that? It's way ether than your Kia. Why don't you have a Benz? Yet again, absolutely no theory presented as to why Locker may be struggling. BORING! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I've given my quick analysis. He flashes great play combined w/ his poor play in his inconsistent play which tome speaks of inexperience. Again, your non basic, advanced facts are: 1. Jake's play is inconsistent. 2. Jake is inexperienced. Thanks for nothing but a laugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Again, your non basic, advanced facts are: 1. Jake's play is inconsistent. 2. Jake is inexperienced. Thanks for nothing but a laugh. Yeah those are my theories (not facts, look up the difference) as to why he's struggling. What are yours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 1. He plays QB. 2. He isn't doing well. That's what I'll stick with for now... hope people can keep up with our analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 1. He plays QB. 2. He isn't doing well. That's what I'll stick with for now.. Those aren't theories for why he's playing poorly. Wtf man? Saying his position and saying he isn't playing well aren't theories for why he isn't playing well. Seriously man... Wtf? Why do you think he's struggling at times and is inconsistent? Post a theory and we'll discuss it... Possibly in the morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 His hair is too short. Ever read the bible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 His hair is too short. Ever read the bible? I seriously don't get why you won't post a theory to discuss. I assume its b/c you don't have one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I didn't see Cutler's day, but stat line wise it seems pretty similar to Locker's. Not that Cutler necessarily represents the hopes and expectations for Locker, but it is at least some perspective. QBs have bad games - it happens. Unfortunately Jake hasn't been able to counter these games with really great ones often enough. That will be a problem if he doesn't fix it in the near future, but right now it's not too unusual. I can see why people may be disappointed when it seems young QBs are developing quicker elsewhere, but I think you'll find in a lot of these cases that these QBs tend to be on teams that are surprising good with coaching staffs that that are on the up. Obviously Locker playing better would help to achieve that but even if he was playing better, it wouldn't mask our terrible D, inconsistent targets on offense, light switch running game and a staff which seems to be in turmoil. I don't know if any young QB on the Titans right now would be doing a whole heap better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Okay here's a theory for Reo. Locker is pressing in the big situation, trying too hard to make a play when the play that he is trying to make isn't there. His excitedness is forcing him to make the wrong read whereas in moments that aren't as big he's making the right read and the good throw because he's more relaxed. It's natural for this to happen to a young QB. It even happened to Peyton Manning for years and years. It happened to Aaron Rodgers in his 1st year starting. I can remember in the game against the Titans in 2008 Rodgers missing easy throws that would have won the Packers the game. It happened to Jay Cutler for years in Denver. I'm certainly not trying to compare the players this is what young QB's go through. As the game continues to slow down for him I would guess that it will stop. It goes back to Locker not getting the experience a year ago. Still doesn't excuse yesterday's performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAEA12 Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Yeah those are my theories (not facts, look up the difference) as to why he's struggling. What are yours? That he sucks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Lol. I love watching you guys sit and fall over yourselves trying to explain, no, comprehend what I have been telling you the past two years... And then the best part is that you can't even run to the Newton counter-response as he's clearly played himself out of that sophomore slump... Like I said in the past, we'll be lucky to get to Locker's sophomore slump by year four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 One could argue Cam is feeling comfortable again now the pressure of winning is off since their season is gone. It's an entirely different position once expectations are there to win like they were heading into this season. Offering predictions and conclusions on a QB from day 1 doesn't mean anything even if they end up being spot on. Anyone could see Locker was a project of a prospect - it was always going to be the safer bet to say he won't pan out as a long term solution. Normal people just don't see the point in doing this and simply let things play out and adjust opinions accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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