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2 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

IDK because #20 would be Corey Dillon.  I think he needs to get over 12 K career yards.

Dillon was never considered the best by a significant amount or even top 3 during any given season. The same could be said for most of the RBs around that mark besides OJ and the 1 All-pro season from Jamal Lewis. He also already has more TDs than Earl...(rimshot!). 

 

It's pretty crazy LeSean McCoy is 22nd all-time. I never would have figured that. 

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4 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

He really hasn't though.  He always could catch a screen or a basic outlet route.  Without tracking it, I'd say for every big screen play, there's 2 or 3 that go nowhere but that stuff is really all dependent on the OL and WR's blocking right to set it up.

He was 9th in receiving yards last year and has continued on this season being sure handed and a weapon in the passing game.

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Just now, IsntLifeFunny said:

It's pretty crazy LeSean McCoy is 22nd all-time. I never would have figured that. 

Never would have figured that in which direction? It was him and AP for easily the most dominant players at their position over the course of that decade.

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Just now, wiscotitansfan said:

Never would have figured that in which direction? It was him and AP for easily the most dominant players at their position over the course of that decade.

He was dominant all of one season as a pure runner. 

 

Anyways, I didn't think he accumulated that many yards rushing, but his durability is noteworthy. 

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7 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Dillon was never considered the best by a significant amount or even top 3 during any given season. The same could be said for most of the RBs around that mark besides OJ and the 1 All-pro season from Jamal Lewis. He also already has more TDs than Earl...(rimshot!). 

 

It's pretty crazy LeSean McCoy is 22nd all-time. I never would have figured that. 

DH still only has 1 1st team All Pro year.  Earl had 3 plus a couple of OPOY's and an MVP.....

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2 minutes ago, rns90 said:

Depends what the number you think he needs to get in.  10000 is probably pretty achievable, after that it gets murky.

Most of the HOF backs have 12 K rushing and at least 2 1500 yard plus seasons.

 

DH has a shot if he can get a couple of more good seasons but as PK noted it's not the lock Titans fans think it is and I'd add the RB devaluation won't help come 10 years from now when he's being considered.

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1 minute ago, BudsOilers said:

DH still only has 1 1st team All Pro year.  Earl had 3 plus a couple of OPOY's and an MVP.....

DH also was OPOY. 

 

Either way, it isn't about Earl vs Henry. It's Henry versus the crowd, and he has enough accolades and reputation that I think hitting 11k does the trick. You don't speak of football since the last 6 games of 18 through last year without mentioning Henry. 

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8 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

He was 9th in receiving yards last year and has continued on this season being sure handed and a weapon in the passing game.

Yes he pops a few screens for huge gains every so often.  He's not running routes out there like some of the 3 down backs.  His success rate receiving is 42% so far....but in fairness it's early.

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2 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

Most of the HOF backs have 12 K rushing and at least 2 1500 yard plus seasons.

 

DH has a shot if he can get a couple of more good seasons but as PK noted it's not the lock Titans fans think it is and I'd add the RB devaluation won't help come 10 years from now when he's being considered.

I think if he can hit 10K yards after this year (he's at 8478 now) he's got a good shot of just hanging around and getting the other 2,000 yards spread over years.  We have no idea how he will age and how the RB cliff will be for him though.

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Forget most of the HOF backs... all of them played in a different era and stats aren't comparable.

 

The idea that XYZ accumulated stat is necessary, as opposed to being a lion of the times is silly to me. Henry is iconic for multiple reasons (2k, stiff arms and even just stature if I'm honest). That'll probably be enough regardless of stats, imo.

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1 minute ago, BudsOilers said:

Yes he pops a few screens for huge gains every so often.  He's not running routes out there like some of the 3 down backs.  His success rate receiving is 42% so far....but in fairness it's early.

I'm saying that he's become a factor teams have to regard in the passing game, which wasn't really the case before last year. He's also a better hands catcher than given credit for. He obviously isn't running a full route tree, but he's a weapon that needs to be accounted for in the passing game, which has been an evolution for how we use him. 

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1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

DH also was OPOY. 

 

Either way, it isn't about Earl vs Henry. It's Henry versus the crowd, and he has enough accolades and reputation that I think hitting 11k does the trick. You don't speak of football since the last 6 games of 18 through last year without mentioning Henry. 

He's got a chance for sure but it's no lock,.  But when people look at this era, DH is way down the list in terms of getting mentioned by the actual people that will be voting him in.   Now maybe a huge play

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1 minute ago, Jamalisms said:

Forget most of the HOF backs... all of them played in a different era and stats aren't comparable.

 

The idea that XYZ accumulated stat is necessary, as opposed to being a lion of the times is silly to me. Henry is iconic for multiple reasons (2k, stiff arms and even just stature if I'm honest). That'll probably be enough regardless of stats, imo.

Stats are at least a little comparable, you can always adjust to take in the time period.

 

And what kind of argument is he's "iconic"?

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