Daniel Jeremiah names the Titans as a sneaky team to watch for a first round QB

[oldschool]

1 minute ago, Guts said:

 

Literally no one has said this.  People have stated they would be fine drafting one or two of these guys.  No one said to trade up or we absolutely had to draft someone this year.

 

Many are saying it but thats not the point. This class sucks which is why some do not expect a QB to go in the top 10 in a league starved for QBs. Taking a flyer on a guy with major accuracy issues at 26 because you as a fan are done with Tannehill is not how to run a team or build a roster. This is not the year to grab a QB which is all many of us have been saying for months.

[BudsOilers]

2 minutes ago, Guts said:

 

Literally no one has said this.  People have stated they would be fine drafting one or two of these guys.  No one said to trade up or we absolutely had to draft someone this year.

Wrong.  The push for Ridder specifically involved trading up to get him.  So, yes literally it's been talked about.  Of course, the Titans don't have the capital to do it even if they wanted to.  Of course, why would they do something so dumb for ordinary prospects.

[Guts]

7 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Many are saying it but thats not the point. This class sucks which is why some do not expect a QB to go in the top 10 in a league starved for QBs. Taking a flyer on a guy with major accuracy issues at 26 because you as a fan are done with Tannehill is not how to run a team or build a roster. This is not the year to grab a QB which is all many of us have been saying for months.

 

When did I say I was done with Tannehill? I have stated I see Tannehill for the next two to three years many of times.  I have every right to criticize his playoff performances and expect better play from the most important position on the field.  I would like to see Tennessee find his eventual replacement in the next couple of years while he's still on the roster so they have a year or two to sit.  

[Guts]

2 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

Wrong.  The push for Ridder specifically involved trading up to get him.  So, yes literally it's been talked about.  Of course, the Titans don't have the capital to do it even if they wanted to.  Of course, why would they do something so dumb for ordinary prospects.

 

Who has advocated for trading trade up for Ridder?  His biggest fan on here has not once advocated trading up for him, and either have I.  

[BudsOilers]

28 minutes ago, Guts said:

Who has advocated for trading trade up for Ridder?  His biggest fan on here has not once advocated trading up for him, and either have I.  

 

TGO said they would need to trade up for Ridder.  ILF said they would need to trade up for a QB.  That's two.

 

Never mind that a QB at 26 in a bad QB class (yes it is one) speaks for itself and is far more likely to spur a return to Pineapple Tebow days than be the next Russell Wilson or Tom Brady......

[Guts]

4 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

 

TGO said they would need to trade up for Ridder.  ILF said they would need to trade up for a QB.  That's two.

 

Never mind that a QB at 26 in a bad QB class (yes it is one) speaks for itself and is far more likely to spur a return to Pineapple Tebow days than be the next Russell Wilson or Tom Brady......

 

So two posters saying if we were to draft a QB we would have to trade up for one, doesn't sound like pounding the table for one.  I know TGO said a handful of times IF Ridder fell to #26, not that WE SHOULD trade up. TGO hasn't even really advocated for Ridder, just expressed his opinion on him and that he likes him as a fit for us.

 

 

[BudsOilers]

1 minute ago, Guts said:

 

So two posters saying if we were to draft a QB we would have to trade up for one, doesn't sound like pounding the table for one.  I know TGO said a handful of times IF Ridder fell to #26, not that WE SHOULD trade up. TGO hasn't even really advocated for Ridder, just expressed his opinion on him and that he likes him as a fit for us.

 

Well tgo isn't going to advocate for anyone specifically but rather just cradle Quiver Chins balls justifying whatever is done.......But he's been pretty high on Ridder throughout and you yourself have been pushing the QB angle and defending the class since January. 

 

Bottom line is that the QB class is flawed and this isn't the year to go there.  Especially with the lack of draft picks in day 1/2.  Quiver Chins doesn't need encouragement on blowing first rounders.  He's more than capable of doing it on his own.

[Number9]

3 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

Quiver Chins

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[Guts]

9 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

 

Well tgo isn't going to advocate for anyone specifically but rather just cradle Quiver Chins balls justifying whatever is done.......But he's been pretty high on Ridder throughout and you yourself have been pushing the QB angle and defending the class since January. 

 

Bottom line is that the QB class is flawed and this isn't the year to go there.  Especially with the lack of draft picks in day 1/2.  Quiver Chins doesn't need encouragement on blowing first rounders.  He's more than capable of doing it on his own.

 

I haven't pushed anything.  I have expressed my personal opinion that I like two guys in this draft class who I think can be long-term starters with development and we provide the ideal environment for that development. I have also stated it would have to take the board to fall right for us to even select one of these guys.  

 

So keep trying to exaggerate and take things out of context.

[BudsOilers]

3 minutes ago, Guts said:

 

I haven't pushed anything.  I have expressed my personal opinion that I like two guys in this draft class who I think can be long-term starters with development and we provide the ideal environment for that development. I have also stated it would have to take the board to fall right for us to even select one of these guys.  

 

So keep trying to exaggerate and take things out of context.

Not exaggerating anything.  You guys have been advocating QB the whole time whether it's obvious or passively done since the season ended.  You specifically have defended the class that most everyone who does this for a living says is bad.......and at one point argued that there never will be a better year to pick a QB.  I remember what you said.  Don't you?

[Guts]

3 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

Not exaggerating anything.  You guys have been advocating QB the whole time whether it's obvious or passively done since the season ended.  You specifically have defended the class that most everyone who does this for a living says is bad.......and at one point argued that there never will be a better year to pick a QB.  I remember what you said.  Don't you?

 

I've defended a prospect, not an entire class.

 

That is also an exaggeration on your part. I've said this year is a good opportunity to draft a QB if JRob feels like one is worthy.  JRob said those words himself, that the QB's in this class are within reach when they normally won't be in another class.

 

[tgo]

[BudsOilers]

12 minutes ago, Guts said:

 

I've defended a prospect, not an entire class.

 

That is also an exaggeration on your part. I've said this year is a good opportunity to draft a QB if JRob feels like one is worthy.  JRob said those words himself, that the QB's in this class are within reach when they normally won't be in another class.

 

 

Robinson's quote is a nice way of saying the QB prospects are flawed.....

 

But in terms of your takes, you've argued that anyone who thinks the QB's in this class are bad are simply biased because of the draft analysts.  Never mind that if you actually dissect the prospects themselves and it's obviously the reason the class is criticized to the extent that it is.

 

You also seem to think that the team could draft a guy at 26 and sit him for 2 years, which of course is also stupid and mitigates one of the main benefits of a starting QB on a rookie contract.

 

You also argued that trading up next year when the class is better will be costly hence this year is good because one of the top 5 could be at 26.  Of course it will cost more to trade up in 2023 but it's very much an exercise of you get what you pay for. 

 

For you to pretend you have not been pushing QB is rich.  A quick pull up of your posts says otherwise. 

 

[Guts]

8 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

 

Robinson's quote is a nice way of saying the QB prospects are flawed.....

 

But in terms of your takes, you've argued that anyone who thinks the QB's in this class are bad are simply biased because of the draft analysts.  Never mind that if you actually dissect the prospects themselves and it's obviously the reason the class is criticized to the extent that it is.

 

You also seem to think that the team could draft a guy at 26 and sit him for 2 years, which of course is also stupid and mitigates one of the main benefits of a starting QB on a rookie contract.

 

You also argued that trading up next year when the class is better will be costly hence this year is good because one of the top 5 could be at 26.  Of course it will cost more to trade up in 2023 but it's very much an exercise of you get what you pay for. 

 

For you to pretend you have not been pushing QB is rich.  A quick pull up of your posts says otherwise. 

 

 

Have you evaluated any of these QB's, or do you take every media opinion for face value?  I'll even reckon you couldn't name any of the the potential QB's in the 2023 draft class and who they play for outside of the top 2 guys next year.

 

Let's not forgot Spencer Rattler was the census media pre-season favorite last year #1 overall prospect, and look where he's at now. Sam Howell wasn't far below in those conversations this time last year.

 

So yes I will continue to stick with my original statement.  Their is an opportunity to draft a QB this year if Robinson feels one is worthy.  Doesn't mean they will doesn't mean they won't draft one (or considered drafting one).  It's still my opinion that their are one to two guys that have the potential to be long term starters in the NFL in this class.

 

You are making the assumption (based on media influence) next year draft class is leaps and bounds better. When the narrative can drastically, like it did with this draft class a year ago.  You are also making the assumption that some team will just willing hands the keys over to a franchise QB via trade in next years draft.

 

 

[rns90]

1 hour ago, BudsOilers said:

 

TGO said they would need to trade up for Ridder.  ILF said they would need to trade up for a QB.  That's two.

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socaltitan  said that if there was a qb falling he would trade up 5-10 spots to get another one.  Most of them are just butt hurt over the playoff loss though (not ILF though).  

 

At this point,  you can kind of weed out those who have no idea what they are talking about.  I mean almost everyone who watches (evaluators etc...including one former GM who built a super bowl team) this stuff for a living says this class is bad.  And we are supposed to believe some of the stuff peddled here (well no one knows which qb's will pan out, have you watched them..)?