gaskill15 Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, japan said: It's just funny how quickly you pivot positions on a guy who you vilified a year ago (along with me) then hop to using your new position on the guy to vilify Mariota. So him adjusting his opinion based on recent play is a bad thing now? Should he just blindly hate on a guy even if he improves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernope Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, OILERMAN said: But passer rating itself has always been a surprisingly decent metric within any self-contained era; the team with the higher passer rating (by any margin) in a game wins about 80 percent of the time. This was the most staggering part of the article to me. 80%!! Highly correlated predictive statistics that are easily understood are fascinating but should be met with a bit of skepticism. (I clicked on the SI.com link) Was the 80% number only from that specific year (2010)? Does it use the QBs career rating or just to that point in the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Supernope said: This was the most staggering part of the article to me. 80%!! Highly correlated predictive statistics that are easily understood are fascinating but should be met with a bit of skepticism. (I clicked on the SI.com link) Was the 80% number only from that specific year (2010)? Does it use the QBs career rating or just to that point in the season? No research but it makes sense given how touchdowns and turnovers have such an impact on a game's outcome. Explosive plays made/allowed is also a good barometer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Supernope said: (I clicked on the SI.com link) Was the 80% number only from that specific year (2010)? Does it use the QBs career rating or just to that point in the season? No, that's over the entire lifespan of the NFL. When you factor in passer rating differential the number of teams that won the championship that were ranked either #1 or #2 is staggering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Supernope said: This was the most staggering part of the article to me. 80%!! Highly correlated predictive statistics that are easily understood are fascinating but should be met with a bit of skepticism. (I clicked on the SI.com link) Was the 80% number only from that specific year (2010)? Does it use the QBs career rating or just to that point in the season? https://fancredsports.com/Articles/passer-rating-differential-the-mother-of-all-sta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokes Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Thrill said: Ok... but he had a bad year this year that’s not really up for debate. His stats don’t look awful but he constantly missed open receivers. But obviously injuries were a major part of it and everyone gets that. Mariota deserves some of that same leniency. But this his last year to prove himself. Where as Newton is a proven commodity and you can safely assume he will be back to full strength next year. Mariota is not such a sure bet. Newton has consistently missed passes as he's a below average passer. He survives due to his a ability to play like a fullback and be available for the most part, but he is wearing down and due to not developing as a passer because he didn't have to. The lost practice reps used on how to run him and lost in games reps as a passer are beginning to catch up, his time as a functional starting QB is short due to a mortal body and average to below average QB ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokes Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: No, that's over the entire lifespan of the NFL. When you factor in passer rating differential the number of teams that won the championship that were ranked either #1 or #2 is staggering It shouldn't be shocking, it's been a matter of how your QB matches up for years. Yeah you always have outliers, but it is what it is. Until further notice Marcus is injury prone and the third best QB in our division and anyone that believes different is either huffing paint or smoking the hopiom. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Smokes said: It shouldn't be shocking, it's been a matter of how your QB matches up for years. Yeah you always have outliers, but it is what it is. Until further notice Marcus is injury prone and the third best QB in our division and anyone that believes different is either huffing paint or smoking the hopiom. Third best? Jax will have something better by opening day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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