Righteous Posted May 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, big2033 said: Winston is currently playing in the NFL regardless, and the incident in question happened while all eyes were on him at Florida State. Of course it's going to be a bigger deal. If he did something when he was 15 and was exonerated it wouldn't be as big a deal. Character is always an issue when you're a top pick in the NCAA. And despite all that he was chosen No. 1 regardless. No matter what, HIS story was nationally covered ... so it will sit with him forever. If Patricia did this during the summer ... it would/should be a huge story. It didn't. It happened 20+ years ago. Pick your spots with your outrage. This isn't apples to apples. The post was to Oldfool, first, who said woman rarely lie about rape. Secondly, it’s always something. 20 years, 1 year. If someone was not charged with a crime, it should be no issue for Winston or Patricia. That’s the thing...it’s always something that can be easily explained away. No 2 situations will be the exact same. So it comes back to where I started. If women rarely lie about rape then that makes Patricia a rapist who should not be given an opportunity to coach. I could care less about the time period. I am standing solidly on my 2 points. Women lie about rape and if you weren’t convicted, let it die. All others have had to dance around the details to make their persecution of one valid while vindicating the other. So yeah, both were 20 something’s accused of rape. Neither was found guilty. So either we don’t care or we do. Justice is never blind on this Board. That is the point! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Righteous said: The post was to Oldfool, first, who said woman rarely lie about rape. Secondly, it’s always something. 20 years, 1 year. If someone was not charged with a crime, it should be no issue for Winston or Patricia. That’s the thing...it’s always something that can be easily explained away. No 2 situations will be the exact same. So it comes back to where I started. If women rarely lie about rape then that makes Patricia a rapist who should not be given an opportunity to coach. I could care less about the time period. I am standing solidly on my 2 points. Women lie about rape and if you weren’t convicted, let it die. All others have had to dance around the details to make their persecution of one valid while vindicating the other. So yeah, both were 20 something’s accused of rape. Neither was found guilty. So either we don’t care or we do. Justice is never blind on this Board. That is the point! It should be no issue. But it isn't. James Franco was left out of the Oscars for something that may or may not have happened years ago. I'm not arguing the fairness. I'm arguing timing is everything. I'd care more about Winston's situation over Patricia's. Especially if I was a Bucs fan. When you draft a player, you're drafting hoping he has no character issues that would come up after you draft him. If he's a serial rapist you probably want to know before drafting him. Also, the NFL probably wants to know before putting him on TV. Patricia's situation happened a long time ago. He's proven, over time that he's most likely not a serial rapist. I don't have to worry as much what happens next, because he's proven it doesn't happen often. Unfortunately, if you have something in your near past and a team is about to take a chance on you ... it's going to leave a mark over someone who had an incident 20 years prior and then has been squeaky clean since. People won't care as much about Winston as time goes by and he stays clean. Just like people don't care about Kobe and are handing him Oscars. The differences between Patricia and Winston are pretty clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted May 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, big2033 said: It should be no issue. But it isn't. James Franco was left out of the Oscars for something that may or may not have happened years ago. I'm not arguing the fairness. I'm arguing timing is everything. I'd care more about Winston's situation over Patricia's. Especially if I was a Bucs fan. When you draft a player, you're drafting hoping he has no character issues that would come up after you draft him. If he's a serial rapist you probably want to know before drafting him. Also, the NFL probably wants to know before putting him on TV. Patricia's situation happened a long time ago. He's proven, over time that he's most likely not a serial rapist. I don't have to worry as much what happens next, because he's proven it doesn't happen often. Unfortunately, if you have something in your near past and a team is about to take a chance on you ... it's going to leave a mark over someone who had an incident 20 years prior and then has been squeaky clean since. People won't care as much about Winston as time goes by and he stays clean. Just like people don't care about Kobe and are handing him Oscars. The differences between Patricia and Winston are pretty clear. No, the narrative was plain and clear...because Winston was accused, more than likely he was a rapist. That fact (accusation) remains the same for both Winston and Patricia. Those who were adamant about Winston’s guilt should be just as adamant about Patricia’s guilt. All of the rest is just dressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 48 minutes ago, Righteous said: No, the narrative was plain and clear...because Winston was accused, more than likely he was a rapist. That fact (accusation) remains the same for both Winston and Patricia. Those who were adamant about Winston’s guilt should be just as adamant about Patricia’s guilt. All of the rest is just dressing. No it doesn't work that way. For anyone to believe Bill Cosby's situation it tool over 30 before it was taken seriously. Actor James Franco was kept out of the Oscars most likely because of his fresher accusations. Casey Affleck WON the Oscar with his situations settled out of court. The narrative is only coming from you. When Kobe was accused of rape while playing. To most he WAS a rapist. He went to TRIAL. Now he wins Oscars has hashtags named after him and has statues in China. Now tell me how his situation is different from Winston's? Time heals all wounds. Not fair, but true. So no ... people aren't going to be as outraged as they were with Winston. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsmeallen Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Stupid someone even brought this up. It’s from 22 years ago and he wasn’t ever convicted of anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 9 hours ago, Righteous said: There were not several women. That is bullshit. Also, the system found that the woman was not credible. She just kept pursuing cash. Nothing else. nah there were reports of others as well as the testimony of the raped girls friends. there was no cash to pursue.. he hadnt even played yet and she was pressing charges. she kept pushing all before she saw him again and finally could put a name with the face. shes also wealthy.. so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 the world is just so unfair right @Righteous !!! everybody hates this black multi-millionaire that got free college and multiple baseball offers and was the #1 pick in the draft, has sponsorships, and is the face of a franchise and city ugh... why is everybody so against him???!!!?!?! everyone must be racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 FWIW.. i generally side with the women in these cases. I think more often than not they are telling the truth in rape accusations. I do believe theres plenty of false rape claims and regret feelings that they unintentionally twist in their minds into being rape .. but I dont believe those are more than 10%. but thats just a guess. I usually side against college athletes much more than I would side with professional athletes in these cases. Kids have no money. it makes little sense to intentionally try and get money out of poor kids who have nothing. Further.. these guys are at their testosterone peaks of life. They have never been told NO before. They are immature humans.. their brains havent even finished developing yet. They are just figuring out what sex is and probably have some fucked up views of it because of porn and shock culture thats so exciting at that age. They are extremely entitled and think that they can do whatever they want. I have little doubt winston did it. His actions later joking about it and other things only back it up more. Now that his case is over, as long as he does nothing else and learns to not be a turd.. then all is good. And yes @Righteous so very very very many people (including me) believe ben rothlisberger raped at least one girl. but we are all fucking racists because you hate yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 I won't say it's a non-story...but at this point the story is nothing more than the allegations that were dropped 20+ years ago. At this point that's all there is to it. Patricia has already denied and said the allegations were false. Unless the girl who chose not to pursue the case 20 years ago decides to come forward and give her side of the story....then there's no story there. At this point it's all he said/she said...and she's not saying anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, titanruss said: I usually side against college athletes much more than I would side with professional athletes in these cases. Kids have no money. it makes little sense to intentionally try and get money out of poor kids who have nothing. This isn’t accurate though. While it might be true these kids currently have no money at the time the accusation is made, it’s fairly obvious they will have millions a year or three down the line. You get a judgment for a bunch of money and then you just wait until they get paid to collect it. Pretty simple legal technique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, titanruss said: FWIW.. i generally side with the women in these cases. I think more often than not they are telling the truth in rape accusations. I do believe theres plenty of false rape claims and regret feelings that they unintentionally twist in their minds into being rape .. but I dont believe those are more than 10%. but thats just a guess. I usually side against college athletes much more than I would side with professional athletes in these cases. Kids have no money. it makes little sense to intentionally try and get money out of poor kids who have nothing. Further.. these guys are at their testosterone peaks of life. They have never been told NO before. They are immature humans.. their brains havent even finished developing yet. They are just figuring out what sex is and probably have some fucked up views of it because of porn and shock culture thats so exciting at that age. They are extremely entitled and think that they can do whatever they want. I have little doubt winston did it. His actions later joking about it and other things only back it up more. Now that his case is over, as long as he does nothing else and learns to not be a turd.. then all is good. And yes @Righteous so very very very many people (including me) believe ben rothlisberger raped at least one girl. but we are all fucking racists because you hate yourself. This is about the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. Patricia was not a pro and was at his testosterone peak when the accusation occurred. And yes bitch, you are a racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, titanruss said: the world is just so unfair right @Righteous !!! everybody hates this black multi-millionaire that got free college and multiple baseball offers and was the #1 pick in the draft, has sponsorships, and is the face of a franchise and city ugh... why is everybody so against him???!!!?!?! everyone must be racist. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biography.com/.amp/news/emmett-till-accuser-lied Think there’s an M.O. And how you bitches respond. And you blame others for being a gang? Same M.O. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titansurf32 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Haha this is hilarious. this guy sucks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 I'm not involved with the legal system but it seems like it could be pretty tough to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you were raped if you in fact weren't. Why is there always such an insistence that it's so easy for a woman to lie about it and get a man thrown in jail? I just like to point out that for everyone complaining about how Winston was treated... the guy was the #1 overall pick and it's not like he's been ostracized by society at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 10 hours ago, Face said: "eating W's" video was honestly the most awkward thing I've ever seen in my life. Definitely one of the stranger things I’ve ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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