dannynj Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 37 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: It was argued repeatedly before the injury. His touch count was way too high. His touch count was too high according to who? The coaching staff? Murray? Henry? Defenses he was playing against? You talk about having an intelligent conversation with informed fans but if someone dare not agree with you, they're a paper strawman, whatever that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 hour ago, TitanDuckFan said: That's why many are saying a change-of-pace back with more versatility is needed. DMM is serving in both roles, and that's a lotta wear on him. Can't really argue that but Henry isn't a change of pace... He'd just be fresh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just now, dannynj said: His touch count was too high according to who? The coaching staff? Murray? Henry? Defenses he was playing against? You talk about having an intelligent conversation with informed fans but if someone dare not agree with you, they're a paper strawman, whatever that is. Disagreeing? Natural. Suggesting that those discussing how to get the most out of a great player are actually arguing his backup is better? Strawman. Know what you post ... and preferably know something about it as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 This is where forums can get annoying. @Jamalismsbrought up a great point, one that I thought impacted the season a bit. It's certainly worth discussion, instead we get useless responses like "yeah, let's bench Murray", because wanting a slightly more equitable carry split is the same as calling for Murray to be benched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannynj Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just now, Jamalisms said: Disagreeing? Natural. Suggesting that those discussing how to get the most out of a great player are actually arguing his backup is better? Strawman. Know what you post ... and preferably know something about it as well. Right. Because you clearly know more than the coaching staff, Murray, Henry and whoever else you want to T off on on your keyboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaskill15 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, heyitsmeallen said: Demarco deserves to be the workhorse..the guy had a bad toe injury for half of the season and still led the AFC in rushing. To cut his carries would be a slap in the face considering he played hurt for 8 weeks even though he needed surgery on his toe. No doubt and I agree. However, Mularkey also doesn't need to immediately insert Murray after just returning from the locker room with a toe injury when we are up by 4 scores. That move was jaw dropping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannynj Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just now, Face said: This is where forums can get annoying. @Jamalismsbrought up a great point, one that I thought impacted the season a bit. It's certainly worth discussion, instead we get useless responses like "yeah, let's bench Murray", because wanting a slightly more equitable carry split is the same as calling for Murray to be benched. What's annoying is you have fans questioning the distribution of carries of two oustanding running backs. And it's the same thing over and over on the topic. I'd be thrilled for the Titans to wind up with McCaffrey at #18. Not only because he'd add a major mismatch and play maker but to watch all the keyboard coaches go full blown retard mode. Personally, I'd prefer two defensive players in the first but hey, it would be fun to watch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, Face said: I think the fact that most, not all, but most coaches use more of a committee these days tells you that modern coaches feel the amount of touches Murray got are too much & not efficient. He also had a significant injury & his touches remained the same. It hurt the running game significantly. I definitely don't think it hurt the run game "significantly." Unfortunately, that's an unknown scenario on if or how much it "hurt." It's obvious the coaches trusted Murray more as an every down player. He made big catches and big plays. They also trusted him more as a blocker. Would Henry do as well in these positions? Would he be up to the task. Would he get more opportunities this year. I am a fan of Henry and hope he takes over. But every time I thought Henry should get more carries Murray would make big plays after getting volume. Again, seems like a mountain of a molehill that we don't know the details of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaskill15 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Starkiller said: I'd like to see them line up Henry as a WR more often (with Murray in the backfield). Or even lined up in the backfield with Murray and swing him into a route. Make him into a mismatch for defenders. Henry hasn't proven to be a capable receiving threat. He hasn't really had an opportunity either but I do remember a drop or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Mission accomplished: more Mularkey FUD dispearsed based on the unprovable and speculated into 2017 with piss n' vinegar! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVTITAN Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Henry should play on more first down snaps. Murray is a complete back and very valuable and should be fresh for the stretch run. Just my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Without the looking up snap counts I thought the staff best used Henry in the KC game and the first Jags game. One could quibble that he should've gotten more carries against Jax due to Murray's injury but that's kinda nit-picky since he got plenty of burn. Anyone know how Henry's snap count in those 2 games compared to the others? Sometimes I get the feeling that maybe he got more touches than we think but in our excitement to see him more maybe we glaze over some of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, big2033 said: I definitely don't think it hurt the run game "significantly." Unfortunately, that's an unknown scenario on if or how much it "hurt." It's obvious the coaches trusted Murray more as an every down player. He made big catches and big plays. They also trusted him more as a blocker. Would Henry do as well in these positions? Would he be up to the task. Would he get more opportunities this year. I am a fan of Henry and hope he takes over. But every time I thought Henry should get more carries Murray would make big plays after getting volume. Again, seems like a mountain of a molehill that we don't know the details of. There was times where it got ridiculous, especially the 1st Jax game. We were up by 70 points at the half, he got hurt, and Mularkey opens up the half with 9 Murray runs out of 10 plays. There's just no need for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 36 minutes ago, Huston said: Fred Taylor said whasup. Fair enough. Dating back to 2007 Murray has had a dislocated Patella (3 games), fractured ankle (IR final 3 games), sprained foot (6 games), sprained MCL (2 games), broken hand (played through it) and a torn plantar plate (played through it). He's also hamstring issues that caused him to miss a regular season game in two separate years, OTAs in a third and multiple preseason games in a fourth year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 38 minutes ago, dannynj said: Right. Because you clearly know more than the coaching staff, Murray, Henry and whoever else you want to T off on on your keyboard. Discussing the team, players and coaching decisions is what this forum is for. Perhaps you ended up here by mistake? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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