scine09 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I got this idea from La Canfora who basically said the same thing. The Titans have things going for them that other teams don't. 1. A young franchise QB who is as talented as any young qb in football, wants to be coached, isn't a worry off the field, has as low an ego as any qb in the league, is as quick mentally as probably any qb in the league and will work his ass off to correct any deficiencies. If that's not a coach's dream I don't know what is. As Jason La Canfora said in his article yesterday "Top offensive coordinators love them some Marcus Mariota." 2. The franchise is at the bottom with nowhere to go but up. This is one of the two places where this differentiates with the Colts. In Indy you better win next year. That's not the case with the Titans. 3. Some young impact players outside of Mariota but with a very high draft pick each round and the most cap space in the league, or close to it, a chance to become a playoff team as soon as next year. And given that the division is terrible the goal to be a playoff team next year becomes even more attainable. 4. The franchise has not won yet. I think that's a big deal as any coach who goes to a team who won or has had recent success will always be trying to live up to what that other coach did. In Nashville everything will be fresh. 5. Many people think the ownership thing is a detriment. I don't. These owners are showing that they care and are willing to spend money while at the same time are hands off. Maybe the team is for sale. I don't know. But if I was a coach or even going to work for a corporation these are exactly the type of people I'd want to work for. This is the second part that gives the Titans the edge over the Colts. Jim Irsay is a pain in the ass. 6. Nashville as a city and area is one of the nicest, growing and cheapest in the entire country. I know many like myself don't live in the area but if you've never been to Brentwood you won't see many houses nicer than there. And I assume the surrounding towns are similar. Unlike in other cities you are left alone and can live a more normal life outside of football. Plus the weathet is good. For anyone who has been to Indianapolis and the surrounding areas there's not even a comparison between the two. 7. Low pressure in general when compared to other jobs given the market. As La Canfora put in his article, the Titans will really have to screw up to not hire a top coach. While I'm not a Josh McDaniels fan he seemed to insinuate in his article that he'd consider Tennessee or Miami. I've heard McDaniels linked to the Titans more than any other team. This is a guy who can pick and choose his job or stay in NE with his cozy job as long as he wants until either Belichick retires and he gets the job or a perfect job elsewhere comes along. So if he takes the Titans job it only means one thing: It's the perfect job. I challenge you to find me a better more in demand job than the Titans job. I don't think there are or will be any. There may be big coaches going elsewhere but only if the Titans turn then down for whatever reason first. It also wouldn't surprise me to see Gruden take this job. The one caveat is if Polian and Manning take over. If that happens I'd expect them to hire someone they're more comfortable with rather than the splash hire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 You lost me at: " I got this idea from La Canfora," but seriously, yeah, it's gotta be enticing. I don't think we'll get a dream team at all. I hope we get an up-and-coming, young guy for HC and a GM who can manage scouts, knows his shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMJ Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 #5 is huge, don't lie to yourself. It's why the team won't ever draw a top HC candidate and (quality) FAs. Also MM will now be entering his 2nd season and will have to learn his 2nd offensive playbook. Because of this organization he's on his way to becoming Alex Smith Mariota. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 The uncertainty of the GM position is a slight negative. If ownership isn't interviewing HCs by Tuesday 1/5/16, then they have screwed up. It's doubtful there is a new GM in place by that date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 30 minutes ago, CMJ said: #5 is huge, don't lie to yourself. It's why the team won't ever draw a top HC candidate and (quality) FAs. Also MM will now be entering his 2nd season and will have to learn his 2nd offensive playbook. Because of this organization he's on his way to becoming Alex Smith Mariota. I'm not so sure. These guys want their shot. It's the NFL regardless. Of all the positions available, there are only 32 HC positions for hundreds of "qualified" candidates. Mount Everest Ego's don't concern themselves with negativity like that (#5.) If they get the shot, they're taking it. That being said, maybe it deters us from Cowher. But who gives a rat's ass? Arians was looking for a job when AZ found him. So was Pete Carroll etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKE75 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I agree with Scine and i think we can all see based on all the factors coming into play this job will be among the most coveted and quite possible the most coveted of all openings. Now lets look at potential openings..... BLACK MONDAY Teams most likely making a change..... Tennessee-We will be quite possibly the most coveted job along with Indy. Cleveland- One team thats quite possibly more screwed up than ours. Ownership there is most likely ready for its annual coaching change. Indy- If there is one team that could possibly steal a great candidate out from under us its Indy. New Orleans- Wondering where Sean Payton will be next he is most likely opting out of New Orleans. Miami-They will be looking for a new head coach this offseason. Not sure if making coaching change but very possible.... San Diego- Not sure if McCoy is safe or not. Detroit- Not sure if Caldwell will be back. NY Giants- Coughlin most likely won't make postseason again. I could see the Giants finally saying goodbye. San Francisco- Another franchise that may or may not stick with who they have. Somewhere between as low as 5 and as many as 9 teams could make changes. Cleveland and San Francisco both have shaky QB situations right now and both are quite possibly drafting one in the first round this year. You can add New Orleans too if Brees moves on. San Diego,New York,Indy,Tennessee,Detroit and Miami all have QB's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_TITAN Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 14 minutes ago, MIKE75 said: I agree with Scine and i think we can all see based on all the factors coming into play this job will be among the most coveted and quite possible the most coveted of all openings. Now lets look at potential openings..... BLACK MONDAY Teams most likely making a change..... Tennessee-We will be quite possibly the most coveted job along with Indy. Cleveland- One team thats quite possibly more screwed up than ours. Ownership there is most likely ready for its annual coaching change. Indy- If there is one team that could possibly steal a great candidate out from under us its Indy. New Orleans- Wondering where Sean Payton will be next he is most likely opting out of New Orleans. Miami-They will be looking for a new head coach this offseason. Not sure if making coaching change but very possible.... San Diego- Not sure if McCoy is safe or not. Detroit- Not sure if Caldwell will be back. NY Giants- Coughlin most likely won't make postseason again. I could see the Giants finally saying goodbye. San Francisco- Another franchise that may or may not stick with who they have. Somewhere between as low as 5 and as many as 9 teams could make changes. Cleveland and San Francisco both have shaky QB situations right now and both are quite possibly drafting one in the first round this year. You can add New Orleans too if Brees moves on. San Diego,New York,Indy,Tennessee,Detroit and Miami all have QB's. Out of the teams listed I'll list which position will be most coveted - 1 being most coveted: 1. NY Giants - really one of the elite jobs in the league. Big city, bright lights. 2. Indianapolis Colts - Has the QB and decent core to the team. 3. Tennessee Titans - Franchise QB, cap space, nice city, low expectations. 4. Detroit Lions - Nice roster, bad city. 5. New Orleans Saints - Ageing roster and poor defense, but well-supported and in a fun city. 6. San Diego Chargers - Has the QB but no much else. 7. Miami Dolphins - Not a lot of cap space, poor roster composition. 8. San Francisco 49ers - Bad roster, no QB but nice city. 9. Cleveland Browns - Not an environment where there can be success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted December 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 The Giants have an aging QB and are in the northeast with bad weather and a more expensive to live area. I don't think that job is as attractive as the Titans job. To me Indy is the only one which could compete and I made my arguments as to why Tennessee is a better job than Indy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_TITAN Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 3 minutes ago, scine09 said: The Giants have an aging QB and are in the northeast with bad weather and a more expensive to live area. I don't think that job is as attractive as the Titans job. To me Indy is the only one which could compete and I made my arguments as to why Tennessee is a better job than Indy. The Giants are really one of those few universally coveted jobs. It's one of the most popular teams globally and has a storied history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKE75 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I have learned a lot over the past year or so consistently reading about and watching how NFL teams operate and how and why certain ones are winning and certain ones aren't. Well the statement it all starts at the top should be the most important thing remembered by anyone trying to run a winning franchise....... I have already given my opinion on this ownership group of ours. I think we can all see they aren't the most intelligent group and are having some hard times the last few years. Based on this i think it would be in their best interests to hire a consultant. Look no further than Carolina and the NY Jets they both hired consultants and the results proved to be worth it. This might sound crazy but at this point i am more worried about who will be GM more so than who is coaching. Bottom line is the GM makes most of the decisions and we have to get someone in here who can draft and pick free agents well. Get another loser like Webster and it doesn't matter who the coach is without enough talent you won't win enough games. All the more reason a consultant would most likely bring in a GM from Green Bay,Pittsburgh,Cincinnati,New England,etc. and not from an average or below average franchise unless that GM drafted well like Whaley in Buffalo. Your GM must know talent and be from a winning franchise most of the time if you are really serious about fielding a talented roster. Teams that have drafted well the last few years include Cincinnati,Minnesota and even Buffalo. One of my favorites if i'm casting a net for a GM would be Duke Tobin from Cincy. Another team with great drafting Minnesota so i'd look at George Paton. A really good GM will most likely bring in a good head coach also. I really do hope that we don't have Webster lending a hand in looking for our next head coach if so we could be doomed. To be honest i'd be very happy with Duke Tobin as GM and Hue Jackson as head coach both have done well in Cincy. Also the offenses Jackson runs would be perfect for Mariota. Also they could most likely bring over Marvin Jones and Mohammed Sanu two solid WR's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 15 minutes ago, THE_TITAN said: Out of the teams listed I'll list which position will be most coveted - 1 being most coveted: 1. NY Giants - really one of the elite jobs in the league. Big city, bright lights. 2. Indianapolis Colts - Has the QB and decent core to the team. 3. Tennessee Titans - Franchise QB, cap space, nice city, low expectations. 4. Detroit Lions - Nice roster, bad city. 5. New Orleans Saints - Ageing roster and poor defense, but well-supported and in a fun city. 6. San Diego Chargers - Has the QB but no much else. 7. Miami Dolphins - Not a lot of cap space, poor roster composition. 8. San Francisco 49ers - Bad roster, no QB but nice city. 9. Cleveland Browns - Not an environment where there can be success. I concur. I do disagree about San Fran & Miami. A city has way of drawing talent. I'd put them ahead of TN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 minute ago, scine09 said: The Giants have an aging QB and are in the northeast with bad weather and a more expensive to live area. I don't think that job is as attractive as the Titans job. To me Indy is the only one which could compete and I made my arguments as to why Tennessee is a better job than Indy. I actually think Irish may be right here, strictly because of NY. From a football perspective, yes, we have much more to offer. But the Giants are one of the golden franchises, there's an allure there. They're also considered a very well run team & most importantly, they're patient with their coaches, they don't overreact. A guy knows he's going to have time there, they're similar to the Steelers. I didn't really think of them. The Colts one is tricky, I personally think we have more to offer. Irsay is a crazy person & expectations are enormous there. As good as Luck is he has flaws & had some pretty significant injuries this year. He's also coming up on a monster deal soon, whereas Mariota will be under his rookie deal. Despite the horrific record, we have some nice pieces. Obviously the QB, but we also have a 6'6 freakish outside WR who really is coming on. Almost every great offense is based around a great QB/WR connection. We also have a top 2-3 TE with freakish speed & is a top blocker. If Mariota & DGB make the 2nd year jump this could be a very good offense soon. We also have a good, young LT, despite Sunday. Lewan's had an up & down year, mostly because of the shoulder injury, but by & large when healthy he's been good to very good. We also have a good pass rush, statistically one of the best actually. You throw in a top 2 pick & a ton of cap room & this team is ripe for a quick turnaround. This is a great job to get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I could see Sean P in NY and Josh McDaniels in Indy. Gase will go to Miami. Hue Jackson to San Fran or NO. That would leave us Kyle Shanahan or Chip. FML Of course, this is all wild speculation. Many of the would be coaches will be retained in current positions. I don't want a re-tread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Ownership is important because it ensures stability. No new coach wants to enter into a job of unknown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 7 minutes ago, SleepingTitan said: I could see Sean P in NY and Josh McDaniels in Indy. Gase will go to Miami. Hue Jackson to San Fran or NO. That would leave us Kyle Shanahan or Chip. FML Of course, this is all wild speculation. Many of the would be coaches will be retained in current positions. I don't want a re-tread. Why the hell would Hue Jackson pick SF over us? That's the worst job ever, zero talent, no QB, and a stupid owner. And no way Gase would pick Miami over Tennessee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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