eastwood Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 http://www.nfl.com/n...oakland-raiders Click on the picture of Goddell and Russell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Because he won a bunch of games and lasted awhile in the league. Draft busts are more the guys who literally never did anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 VY wasn't a bust by any means... Disappointment? Sure. But he had too much succes to be considered a bust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I would maybe label him a bust of sorts, but nothing on the level of a real flat-out bust. Deserved or not, he won rookie of the year, won a bunch of games, hung around the NFL for awhile, and even went to the Pro Bowl (joke that it is) a few times. He's our bust, but not an NFL all-time bust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Agreed. VY hung around, won some, and started for a while and had a couple of accolades. Jamarcus Russell is a bust, VY isn't. Another similar albeit different example is reggie bush. I go to school in NOLA and if you ask any local, Bush is a bust, pure and simple. Is he an all-time bust though? Not really, he has had enough success to say he wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I have little doubt that is the situations were reversed in terms of who they were drafted by VY would be right where Jamarcus is and vice versa. Well actually they are both in the same place but you know what I mean. But even if you throw out context and environment entirely....I don't know how some guy gets drafted #3 overalll and is out of the league 5 years later and that isn't a bust. Sure, argue he wasn't as bad a bust....but that's still a bust. #3 overall and gone 5 years later. Yep that's a bust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAEA12 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I saw Russell as a bust coming a mile away. He had one decent year in college. only the Raiders would take a shot on that guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Alpha's avatar,... now that's a bust Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I saw Russell as a bust coming a mile away. He had one decent year in college. only the Raiders would take a shot on that guy. Similar to this guy named Cam?... And VY? Fact of the matter is, the guy got some wins. Everyone else on the list did absolutely nothing. "Russell has been paid more than $5 million per win, more than $2 million per touchdown pass and more than $100,000 per completion.". Scine gets blasted by the minute on his obsession for VY and how great he is (when he has repeatedly clarifies he just states he wasn't close to an all-time bust) but it seems that every time there is an article that doesn't have VY in the list of biggest busts the article is just full of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Vince really wasn't a bust.. he did have limited success and he did win some games. he would be included on the all time dumbest to ever play the game list but not the bust list.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 But yeah, VY is a bust but not worth mentioning every time a list comes out. There are bigger busts than him drafted realistically every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 I have little doubt that is the situations were reversed in terms of who they were drafted by VY would be right where Jamarcus is and vice versa. Well actually they are both in the same place but you know what I mean. But even if you throw out context and environment entirely....I don't know how some guy gets drafted #3 overalll and is out of the league 5 years later and that isn't a bust. Sure, argue he wasn't as bad a bust....but that's still a bust. #3 overall and gone 5 years later. Yep that's a bust. russell was addicted to painkillers. the situations aren't even close. vy maybe has even more success if he goes somewhere else with more patience from the hc and a willinness to let him play his game... but yeah, he could very well have been worse in oakland... isn't everybody? 6 years later btw.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Vince not a bust? Yeah right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 vy maybe has even more success if he goes somewhere else with more patience from the hc and a willinness to let him play his game... Really fill us in.. I just don't see how anyone could say that.. Fisher did nothing but help the dude.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Define Bust WG.. My definition is a player who never contributed after being drafted high.. VY contributed.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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