NashvilleNinja Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Team #1 QB - Josh Freeman, Andy Dalton RB - LeSean McCoy, DeMarco Murray, Ray Rice, James Starks, LeGarrette Blount, Daniel Thomas WR - Julio Jones, Denarius Moore, Lance Moore, Titus Young TE - Jacob Tamme, Team #2 QB - Tom Brady, Jake Locker RB - Arian Foster, Shane Vereen, Mike Goodson WR - Greg Jennings, Nate Washington, Brandon LaFell, Santonio Holmes, Michael Crabtree, Eddie Royal TE - Owen Daniels, Martellus Bennett == The trade: team #1 trades Ray Rice and Denarius Moore (or Lance Moore) to team #2 for Tom Brady and Nate Washington (or some other WR). If you were team 1 would you propose or accept that trade? If you were team 2 would you propose or accept that trade? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonashyde Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 What other QBs available? Team 2 will be too thin with just Locker at QB all season. As a whole, Team 1 is getting the better end of the deal, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I wouldn't make that trade for either team but definitely I don't see team 2 accepting it. Team 1 is getting a good improvement at QB (not the biggest of all needs in the world, depsite the big upgrade), and a sizable downgrade at RB with (IMO) not good enough backups RBs to justify not getting a decent RB in return. Team 2 is getting a major, major downgrade at QB and a needed sizable upgrade at RB. Both teams improve one position while handicapping another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 If I was Team 1, I would make that deal in a second. If I was Team 2, I wouldn't trade Brady. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmeade- Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I disagree. I would take that trade if I was team two and ride off into the sunset with Arian Foster and Ray Rice. Team 1 has good depth at running back, so I would be tempted to make that trade. Ideally though, how much of an actual point difference will there be between Locker and Brady when you factor in Jake's rushing points and rushing TD points? I would say it would be not enough to not take Rice. Im a RB romantic, so I would ultimately be more happy with team 2 at the end of the trade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Team 2 also has Russell Wilson as a QB. Forgot to mention that. Not that it makes much difference. Locker would prob. be the starter between those two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 It really depends on the Scoring system. Are Passing TDs worth the same as Rushing TDs? are there bonuses for passing yards and completions, etc... In most leagues these days, QBs consistently outscore all RBs by a good margin. Abenjame is right, you don't give up Brady unless QB scoring is handicapped. It's also pure homerism to think Locker will score anywhere near Brady. Locker is going to take far more negative plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 QB's are also less injury prone and more guaranteed points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 It really depends on the Scoring system. Are Passing TDs worth the same as Rushing TDs? are there bonuses for passing yards and completions, etc... In most leagues these days, QBs consistently outscore all RBs by a good margin. Abenjame is right, you don't give up Brady unless QB scoring is handicapped. It's also pure homerism to think Locker will score anywhere near Brady. Locker is going to take far more negative plays. Passing TD's are worth 4 points, Rushing TDs are worth 6 points. They're standard league scoring rules. But still... would that be enough to give up Brady? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted September 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Any fresh opinions on this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmeade- Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 My opinion stands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I think you must own both teams or team 2 is owned by a IDIOT.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I think you must own both teams or team 2 is owned by a IDIOT.. I don't own both teams and I'm not saying which team I own. I don't want that to be a factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Don't give up Brady, that is the bottom line.I would gladly take a starting 3 of Brady, Murray, and McCoy over just about any other combination in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Don't give up Brady, that is the bottom line.I would gladly take a starting 3 of Brady, Murray, and McCoy over just about any other combination in the league. Just to play devil's advocate, if I were team 2 I am looking seriously at the difference between Brady and Locker. Brady is going to pile up points, sure, but Locker is likely to put up a decent amount himself given his mobility. He'll have potential rushing yards and touchdowns, which are worth more than passing touchdowns in this particular league (4 points vs. 6 points). In this league Brady could toss 320 yards and 3 touchdowns and barely beat Locker by 2 points throwing for 200 yards and 1 touchdown, while rushing for 40 yards and 1 touchdown (not accounting for turnovers, of course). That's 24 points Brady, 22 points Locker. That's not even the primary consideration either. The main focus of team 2 is to upgrade the RB2 spot, which is sorely in need of an upgrade. If they could do that with Ray Rice or LeSean McCoy they'd have a better 1-2 RB punch than the other team would with Foster. Is giving up 2 points worth upgrading the RB2 spot by that much? On the other hand, team 2 has been trying to upgrade their roster with waiver pick ups. They've picked up Jonathan Dwyer and Mikel Leshoure off the free agent pile recently. So maybe they just want to go with what they've got. But they still look like the weaker team between the two. Btw, if the trade did go down... which of the three backs from team 1 should be swapped for Brady? Rice, McCoy, or Murray? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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