Callidus Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 11 minutes ago, Justafan said: I know you're a stan but let's be real about what we're talking about. Most of the notables, including Brugler, have him ranked in the 7-15 Range, which is probably about right given the lack of top end talent in this draft. That would also seem to suggest that from the consensus scout perspective, taking him at 4 would be largely viewed as a reach. 8th on the consensus board, im not going to go through 80 big boards to so who has him where but thats up there. And like I said, reports at the combine were that he was the top wr by a margin. If lemon, boston and tyson are 15-25 range guys that would make tate a top 10 player which tracks with the consensus board and sounds about right to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Just now, Callidus said: 8th on the consensus board, im not going to go through 80 big boards to so who has him where but thats up there. And like I said, reports at the combine were that he was the top wr by a margin. If lemon, boston and tyson are 15-25 range guys that would make tate a top 10 player which tracks with the consensus board and sounds about right to me. I actually dont know why he's on this board reading others opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Just now, Callidus said: 8th on the consensus board, im not going to go through 80 big boards to so who has him where but thats up there. And like I said, reports at the combine were that he was the top wr by a margin. If lemon, boston and tyson are 15-25 range guys that would make tate a top 10 player which tracks with the consensus board and sounds about right to me. Soooo, exactly what I just said? Got it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Justafan said: At the NFL level, I don’t know how well he’ll separate and neither do you. When fans say things like watch the tape, as if they are trained NFL scouts, I roll my eyes. Worse, some of you dudes actually believe you’re better than NFL scouts. It’s completely laughable. Some of these guys take this stuff way too seriously. You just gotta laugh at it. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Just now, rns90 said: Some of these guys take this stuff way too seriously. You just gotta laugh at it. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, rns90 said: Some of these guys take this stuff way too seriously. You just gotta laugh at it. You guys are taking it too seriously actually. Its a fun hobby, same thing as helping out at a 7 on 7 camp.. if you think anyone here is trying to be an NFL scout through Titans Report then you are making way more out of this than you should and should take a breather... You guys come to a football fan forum on your own volition and get upset people are providing opinions. Edited March 4 by titansfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Just now, Justafan said: Soooo, exactly what I just said? Got it. Considering you were trying to protray him as a mid first and not in play at the top of the draft I would say thats a bit disingenuous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Callidus said: Considering you were trying to protray him as a mid first and not in play at the top of the draft I would say thats a bit disingenuous. Where did I say that? I said 7-15. Check my work, professor, but I'm pretty sure 8 on the consensus board puts him exactly in that range. There's a big difference between top 10 and top 5 and you know it. If what I said was disengenous, what about your assertion that scouts are high on him - inferring that he's likely to go at the top? See how this works? Edited March 4 by Justafan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Justafan said: Where did I say that? We have been talking about him as a guy going between 4-10. You say we are to high on him and thinknwe know better than scouts, pointing to people having him lower. I post stuff saying he is a bit higher than you were saying. This all tracks lol. As for people taking things to seriously, im just presenting my side of the debate. Idk if you are getting heating but I for sure am not. Iv been pretty clear a few times making sure to state this isn't an all or nothing argument on my part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 This whole thing has dissolved into something quite ridiculous in this thread and I hate that I let myself get pulled into it. What's undeniable is that Carnell Tate very clearly and easily proved he could get separation. If youre unable to process or observe that for yourself check out your favorite draft analyst or evaluator and they are likely to tell you the same. Bottomline up front... the 4.52 doesnt matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 What helps him is the other guy Lemon crashing and burning at the combine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, rns90 said: What helps him is the other guy Lemon crashing and burning at the combine. I saw an interview with Lemon a couple weeks ago that made me wonder about him. What happened at the combine was way worse. Kinda reminds me of when I watched interviews with Isaiah Bond last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Callidus said: We have been talking about him as a guy going between 4-10. You say we are to high on him and thinknwe know better than scouts, pointing to people having him lower. I post stuff saying he is a bit higher than you were saying. This all tracks lol. As for people taking things to seriously, im just presenting my side of the debate. Idk if you are getting heating but I for sure am not. Iv been pretty clear a few times making sure to state this isn't an all or nothing argument on my part. Love the discussion. Not heated at all. I do find the tape stuff humorous, but it's not personal (and not really directed at you). Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Justafan im going to try to find some videos that have verified guys who can walk you through how to watch college players and what to look for. It'll help you out... Steve Smith is actually really good. People say watch the game tape because thats how you can see for yourself if someone is good or not. Lots of material out there. But Ill help you out because I think its silly that you get upset at opinions Callidus, and Justafan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, titansfan said: Justafan im going to try to find some videos that have verified guys who can walk you through how to watch college players and what to look for. It'll help you out... Steve Smith is actually really good. People say watch the game tape because thats how you can see for yourself if someone is good or not. Lots of material out there. But Ill help you out because I think its silly that you get upset at opinions Who's upset? You crack me up dummy. Keep going! titansfan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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