Questions.

[MTownTitan1]

3 hours ago, Number9 said:

He needs to make some kind of explanation.  We reviewed the 2023 QB, not one of us wanted Levis.  Finding you franchise QB in the second round is not a recipe for success.  Could he not realize going up to draft him means you think that's your guy.  

If he’s your guy why pass on him at 11 and if he’s not your guy why trade up for him in the second? It didn’t make sense then and doesn’t make sense now 

[Number9]

1 hour ago, MTownTitan1 said:

If he’s your guy why pass on him at 11 and if he’s not your guy why trade up for him in the second? It didn’t make sense then and doesn’t make sense now 

It says there was poor planning or no planning.    

[Number9]

Mike Vrabel's record was 56-48.  But since there are people who like to just pick a part of his record, he was 9-4 in 2019 after he got rid of the board favorite.  In 2020, Vrabel's record was 11-5.  Somehow, he earned the name meathead.  In 2021, his record was 12-5.  I praised Tannehill for standing in there and carrying the offense when da King went down.  We won and no team circled us as an easy game.

 

How many teams are worried now?  Oh, we don't have any talent.  I won't even try to explain how much money they pumped into this team.  But we don't have meathead.  We got Cally.  We are going to play like the Bengals, plus he's good looking.   He has more talent.  He is not burdened with a FHOF RB.  We gon' beat everybody.  Three games in and look at his results.  I would rather win.

 

Think.  The very first game Vrabel coached, you saw an improved team.  Offense.  Defense.  Special teams.  Clock management.

Think.  The first game Cally coached.  You saw improvement where...

 

Yeah, but he's better looking and... 

 

This guy Meathead was a NFL coach we were lucky enough to get.  He's about winning the game of football.  

"We want to throw the ball."  All I can say is we are throwing it now.

[Callidus]

On 9/22/2024 at 6:49 PM, Number9 said:

I want to know what was the problem that you had to fire a promising young coach?  I know coaches don't last long, but Vrabel was a career guy.  He got the Titans to the AFCCG, home field with a crippling injury to the engine of his offense and won HCOY.  I think the owner has to have the ability to establish who is the GD boss when the coach is hired.  You don't buck up to me.

 

Next, who's idea was it to give our team to a 2nd round draft pick?  Heir apparent?  They trot him out their as the "Tennessee Titans OBOF".  We get Will.  A second round pick to put up against the three QBs drafted last year and the six first round picks this year.  Eleven new QBs and we get #11.  I mean that had to be the plan, so someone should go into detail about why Will?  What did they see that other teams didn't see?  Mel Kiper doesn't count.

 

Lastly, why Callahan?  There were several names floating of who would be the best hire.  Cally's name wasn't on the top list.  Why did you grab him before even bringing in other candidates?  I'm sure Cally told him he saw great potential in Levis.  So, snap!  We got our guy!

 

Aww.  Aww, Cally doesn't have any talent.  Well, maybe that is what kept Vrabel from winning last year.  Number9 loves Vrabel.   No, #9 knows this is better than the talent Vrabel had last year.  Firing coaches and GMs might be, maybe window dressing to hide larger major problems.

Dear god its spreading. We need to quarantine number9 and Croatian right away.

[oldschool]

This is dumb. The Titans spent a high 2nd and traded up to that spot to take Levis. Of course the team did so with the idea he would be the franchise guy or at minimum, get a shot to be the guy. It's why when he was drafted some of us said he would get a year, likely 2024 to prove it. Of course he's been so bad he won't get that year. The notion  they would move on from him after last year just completely ignores how teams view draft capital and ROI.

[Number9]

7 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Dear god its spreading. We need to quarantine number9 and Croatian right away.

Nope.  But time to insert some sanity. 

If you were a fan of the Titans you saw a huge difference in how the players performed in 2018.  Game 1.  What are the areas you have seen improvement?   Oh, he's not named meathead.  Really.

 

Time to ease up on the b.s.  The man looked like he was about to cry after the Chicago game.  

[Puck]

Todd Dowing, Shane Bowen, Craig Aukerman

[Callidus]

19 minutes ago, Number9 said:

Nope.  But time to insert some sanity. 

If you were a fan of the Titans you saw a huge difference in how the players performed in 2018.  Game 1.  What are the areas you have seen improvement?   Oh, he's not named meathead.  Really.

 

Time to ease up on the b.s.  The man looked like he was about to cry after the Chicago game.  

Wana talk about a coach I have no confidence in? 

 

I was one the last people to give up on vrable. I was already leaning twords fire but the Miami game last year was the one that broke the camals back. 

 

He looked like he was waiting in line at the DMV not coaching a football game alll the way till the very last drive of the game. The team was fighting that whole game and even in the midst of the comeback he gave exactly zero shits till the team was already on their way to winning. 

 

That guy, gets nothing from me. 

[Number9]

42 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Wana talk about a coach I have no confidence in? 

 

I was one the last people to give up on vrable. I was already leaning twords fire but the Miami game last year was the one that broke the camals back. 

 

He looked like he was waiting in line at the DMV not coaching a football game alll the way till the very last drive of the game. The team was fighting that whole game and even in the midst of the comeback he gave exactly zero shits till the team was already on their way to winning. 

 

That guy, gets nothing from me. 

The job of Head Coach in the NFL is a very, very difficult job.  The average HC lasts 3.2 years.  Vrabel is a lifer.  He'll get another team and when he does you remember this thread.  

 

Can you remember back when we hired Cally?  There was a list floating about hot head coach candidates.  How high up the list was he?  I won't say much more about Cally, I like the guy.  I just have sense enough to understand there's more to being a good NFL coach than how the guy looks.  

[Callidus]

23 minutes ago, Number9 said:

The job of Head Coach in the NFL is a very, very difficult job.  The average HC lasts 3.2 years.  Vrabel is a lifer.  He'll get another team and when he does you remember this thread.  

 

Can you remember back when we hired Cally?  There was a list floating about hot head coach candidates.  How high up the list was he?  I won't say much more about Cally, I like the guy.  I just have sense enough to understand there's more to being a good NFL coach than how the guy looks.  

Ill take the guy saying wtf are you doing over the guy waiting to go home. 

[charleytolar]

I've long proposed taking a QB just about every year. Success there is so hard to predict. You find a keeper in the 5th Round who is good but not going to displace your starter anytime soon and you can move him for a 3rd Round pick down the road-- if you want to.

 

On the other hand, your 1st Rounder who doesn't live up to expectations probably won't garner a 3rd Round pick moving in the other direction.

[charleytolar]

On 9/23/2024 at 11:27 PM, Puck said:

Todd Dowing, Shane Bowen, Craig Aukerman

Downing is with the Jets. Bowen is with the Giants. Aukerman got an interview with the Bucs, but I don't think got the job.

 

The punt block that got Stonehouse injured was overplayed. We've had more (?) punt blocks already this  year... or close to it.

 

Our ST team has never been stalwart but that may be more about the back-end of the roster than the coaching. Easier to blame the coach perhaps.

[Hyperion]

On 9/23/2024 at 4:35 PM, MTownTitan1 said:

If he’s your guy why pass on him at 11 and if he’s not your guy why trade up for him in the second? It didn’t make sense then and doesn’t make sense now 

I made that point the day after the draft. I would have felt much better about him if they chose him at 11. By passing up on him at 11 and then trading up, it showed that they had no trust in their evaluation.  Not only that but every other NFL team declined the same opportunity. It looks really bad.

 

Any QB you take early in the second you should also be willing to take at 11.

[Number9]

6 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

I made that point the day after the draft. I would have felt much better about him if they chose him at 11. By passing up on him at 11 and then trading up, it showed that they had no trust in their evaluation.  Not only that but every other NFL team declined the same opportunity. It looks really bad.

 

Any QB you take early in the second you should also be willing to take at 11.

You're right.  Trading up to get him @33 when you are looking for a starter says you are committed to starting him.  Why risk letting him get away?

[Hyperion]

9 minutes ago, Number9 said:

You're right.  Trading up to get him @33 when you are looking for a starter says you are committed to starting him.  Why risk letting him get away?

 This narrative that it didn't cost the Titans much is baloney. It cost them a third round pick. It cost them the opportunity to take a much better player in the second round. It forced them to remove themselves from last year's quarterback class. It was an incredibly costly venture.