SirLanceALot Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Bonus points though to Lance for being tone deaf not realizing his good luck post would go viral like this. Yea man, sorry about that. Didn’t mean to get everyone riled up with the new lingo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, tgo said: The visceral hate toward mobile QBs and even mentioning them as potential prospects is kind of weird I must say. The disdain is for mobile QB's who suck at passing....not to mention your asinine attempts to make connections/claims that are completely based on false narratives and your bias. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, BudsOilers said: The disdain is for mobile QB's who suck at passing....not to mention your asinine attempts to make connections/claims that are completely based on false narratives and your bias. My bias about what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, tgo said: The visceral hate toward mobile QBs and even mentioning them as potential prospects is kind of weird I must say. It's Richardson's erratic passing that makes people suspect. The guy gets wild with his ball placement. He's either right on the money of WAY off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: It's Richardson's erratic passing that makes people suspect. The guy gets wild with his ball placement. He's either right on the money of WAY off. People seem to also dislike the other 3 mobile QB prospects which are higher ranked than Richardson - or at least really doubt them as prospects. I understand the critiques on individual prospects for sure. Maybe that’s a misperception on my part though and people do like the other 3 higher ranked prospects that we don’t have as much of a chance at. But also fierce opposition to trading for a Jordan Love or Trey Lance. Pretty much all the QBs that come out now and are any good are highly mobile prospects with questionable accuracy and decision making. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence even Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 13 hours ago, oldschool said: @tgo trolling. Benefit from Henry lol. Lol. I was going to say the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 13 hours ago, TerryBoats said: I'm not even sure he's an upgrade over Malik Willis. Lol. Come on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, tgo said: The visceral hate toward mobile QBs and even mentioning them as potential prospects is kind of weird I must say. Weird? Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, tgo said: People seem to also dislike the other 3 mobile QB prospects which are higher ranked than Richardson - or at least really doubt them as prospects. I understand the critiques on individual prospects for sure. Maybe that’s a misperception on my part though and people do like the other 3 higher ranked prospects that we don’t have as much of a chance at. But also fierce opposition to trading for a Jordan Love or Trey Lance. Pretty much all the QBs that come out now and are any good are highly mobile prospects with questionable accuracy and decision making. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence even What the actual fuck are you talking about? Mahomes threw 5k 66% his last year in college Lawrence was a champion and almost got 70% passing Only Allen at WYOMING fits your narrative I am not against scrambling QBs. I personally don't like the style, but it's the new NFL. Not everybody can smell what the defense ate for breakfast 3 years ago like Peyton Manning. But fuck that Lamar Jackson shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, SleepingTitan said: Weird? Why? Because literally almost all high level college QBs now are mobile QBs with accuracy/decision making concerns, so this whole old school mantra of chasing the unicorn highly accurate pocket passer QB seems like an exercise in futility - wishing upon a star. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, tgo said: My bias about what? Seriously? It's pretty obvious... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, SleepingTitan said: What the actual fuck are you talking about? Mahomes threw 5k 66% his last year in college Lawrence was a champion and almost got 70% passing Only Allen at WYOMING fits your narrative Dude please go read some of the cons on the scouting reports for Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Lawrence, Cam Newton. Why do you think Mahomes fell to pick 10 in the draft? Lawrence's whole thing was accuracy issues on intermediate to deep throws and erratic ball placement when under pressure, but having accuracy on short throws. But yes, as a prospect Richardson is very raw that is for certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, tgo said: Because literally almost all high level college QBs now are mobile QBs with accuracy/decision making concerns, so this whole old school mantra of chasing the unicorn highly accurate pocket passer QB seems like an exercise in futility - wishing upon a star. There is a vast difference between accuracy/decision making concerns of say Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, and Lawrence versus the likes of Love, Lance, Fields, Ridder, or Willis or Richardson....There's also a HUGE variance of the production/experience at the college level and in the case of Love/Lance/Willis in the level of competition they faced. The fact you don't or won't grasp this is why you should take your own advice and stop posting about a topic you continue to make a fool of yourself trying to discuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Seriously? It's pretty obvious... Are you talking about some kind of bias toward mobile QBs or am I missing the point? There aren't any good QBs coming out anymore who aren't mobile with questions on accuracy, ball placement, decision making, etc. That's not really my bias, that's just the reality of the situation. I'm definitely not pretending to be some QB evaluator by any means, I used to pretend to know things about QB play and listen to every Greg Cosell bit about QBs and all that - but I'm not going to take a closed minded approach to QB prospects going forward given the success of a lot of guys I thought would abjectly fail in the NFL. I'll just trust the evaluators and just root for the team to pick a good QB when it is time to do so, and if they pass over a prospect, I'll assume it's for good reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, tgo said: Dude please go read some of the cons on the scouting reports for Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Lawrence, Cam Newton. Why do you think Mahomes fell to pick 10 in the draft? Lawrence's whole thing was accuracy issues on intermediate to deep throws and erratic ball placement when under pressure, but having accuracy on short throws. But yes, as a prospect Richardson is very raw that is for certain. Lol don't add Scam Newton to this mix. And IDGAF what reports said. I don't have a problem with "mobile" QBs per se. I'm more concerned about "dual threat" If a guy is a dual threat, he can't be trusted in the NFL. LJ has elite athleticism. He would excel at literally any position on the field except OL/DL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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