AJClown Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Einstein said: Like most things in sports, the issue is not black and white like you are making it out to be. QB efficiency often comes down to how well your running game is. When you have a dominant force - and even more so when you have a hall-of-fame running back like Derrick Henry - defenses adjust and bring more defenders into the box to stop the run. This opens the defense up to be susceptible against the pass. Which is what Tannehill feasted on his first 2 seasons in Tennessee. There is a reason why Tannehill was not as “efficient” for his 6 or so years in Miami, and why he was not as “efficient” in 2021 when Henry was not his usual dominant self and he missed a portion of the year. These are not coincidences, they are real things. Morons like him are waste of breath. There's few of them that think that. They think these players are robotic and stay in their lanes all the time. HOF players in the commentary say it all the time. But honestly dont waste your time explaining these things to these nerds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Ryan has obviously had the better overall career, but anyone who thinks he’s been close to Tannehill the past 3 years doesn’t know how to evaluate QB play. He was top 5 in 19, top 8 in 20, and top 12 last year in a down year where the entire offense went to shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Ryan has obviously had the better overall career, but anyone who thinks he’s been close to Tannehill the past 3 years doesn’t know how to evaluate QB play. He was top 5 in 19, top 8 in 20, and top 12 last year in a down year where the entire offense went to shit. Matt Ryan is still a better QB than tannehill even at this point in his career, and he will prove it this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 47 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Ryan has obviously had the better overall career, but anyone who thinks he’s been close to Tannehill the past 3 years doesn’t know how to evaluate QB play. He was top 5 in 19, top 8 in 20, and top 12 last year in a down year where the entire offense went to shit. Not to mention he's rushed for 18 TDs and 70 1st downs while Matt Ryan has 4 TDs and 27 1st downs over that same time. 30-13 winning record vs 18-30 27 Ints and 21 Fumbles vs MRs 37 Ints and 26 Fumbles Matt Ryan has less yards per game rushing than Ryan Tannehill has per attempt 64 QBR vs 55 7.4 YPA vs 8.2 102 QB rating vs 91 Pick whatever metric you want that's not just volume yards (based on 300!!! more attempts) and Tannehill blows Matt Ryan out of the water in every single category. The Falcons defense was WAY worse than the Titans last year but the talent on the offense wasn't that far away. QB was the biggest differentiator. Also, I refuse to interact and go back and forth with someone who is borderline illiterate. It's disrespectful to everyone on the board who chooses to read this stuff. @AJClown either stop engaging in these discussions or learn to write. Everyone gets a typo every now and then. That stuff happens especially when we're all typing from mobile and going back and forth but bruh.... that isn't your mobile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 hours ago, AJClown said: Morons like him are waste of breath. I won't call him a moron, but I also won't waste any more time arguing it (with him). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: He was top 5 in 19, top 8 in 20, and This correlates to Henry, who faced the most 8 men boxes (by far) and had the most yards against 8 men boxes and yards after contact vs 8 men boxes. 8 men in the box leaves only 3 defenders out of the box. Over half of Henry's carries in 2019 and 2020 came against 8 men in the box, which opened up massive opportunities for play-action passes. Another way to put it - over 60% of the time Tannehill had a play-action pass in 2019 and 2020, he had only 3 defenders out of the box to defend against him. That's, incredible. 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: top 12 last year Tannehill was: - 16th in yards - 19th in avg - 16th in TD's - 21st in INT's - 20th in QB Rating He was top 12 in nothing but completion percentage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, Justafan said: The Falcons defense was WAY worse than the Titans last year but the talent on the offense wasn't that far away. QB was the biggest differentiator Ryan is well on his way to being top-5 all time in a lot of statistical passing categories, has led a downtrodden franchise to it’s best run in it’s sad, sad history, not to mention he’s got the 3rd best postseason passer rating in NFL history. He’s also dragged a bottom 16 defense around for all but 1 year of his career (2017) to relevance. All of this while he’s thrown for at least 4000 yards each of the last 10 years. Consistent greatness, thoroughly unappreciated. 37 minutes ago, Justafan said: Pick whatever metric you want that's not just volume yards (based on 300!!! more attempts) and Tannehill blows Matt Ryan out of the water in every single category. I'll take the challenge. So let's see: 4× Pro Bowl (2010, 2012, 2014, 2016) 2008 Rookie of the Year 2016 MVP First-team All-Pro (2016) 3rd highest post season passer rating all-time (or is that volume too) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, Einstein said: This correlates to Henry, who faced the most 8 men boxes (by far) and had the most yards against 8 men boxes and yards after contact vs 8 men boxes. 8 men in the box leaves only 3 defenders out of the box. Over half of Henry's carries in 2019 and 2020 came against 8 men in the box, which opened up massive opportunities for play-action passes. Another way to put it - over 60% of the time Tannehill had a play-action pass in 2019 and 2020, he had only 3 defenders out of the box to defend against him. That's, incredible. Tannehill was: - 16th in yards - 19th in avg - 16th in TD's - 21st in INT's - 20th in QB Rating He was top 12 in nothing but completion percentage. Fairly obvious you have zero idea what you’re watching or how to evaluate QBs. Tannehill had one of the worst blocking lines in the league as well as scrubs for over half the snaps at every skill position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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