Mythos27 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 If Henry comes back but the receivers don't things will improve some because he's Derrick Henry but make no mistake, the OL issue in particular is like terminal cancer. Without legit receivers we're completely fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: If Henry comes back but the receivers don't things will improve some because he's Derrick Henry but make no mistake, the OL issue in particular is like terminal cancer. Without legit receivers we're completely fucked. the WRs "problem" is overblown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, reo said: the WRs "problem" is overblown Seriously? They were responsible for 2 key fumbles that killed our ability to win the game. NWI dropped a wide open would be TD. They can't get open consistently at all and rarely make difficult catches. You gotta be kidding me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Seriously? yep The QB makes the WRs, not the other way around. When Tannehill has less pressure to be "the guy", his play will seem to improve and magically the WRs will have seemed to have stepped up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Mythos27 said: Seriously? They were responsible for 2 key fumbles that killed our ability to win the game. NWI dropped a wide open would be TD. They can't get open consistently at all and rarely make difficult catches. You gotta be kidding me. Also if you've watched them closely during the last month or so they really struggle to complete/catch 15+ yard passes. The WR either don't get open or just drop them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, reo said: the WRs "problem" is overblown The WRs are horrible, practice squad level. Westbrook-Ikine is the primary WR right now and he's a WR5 at best. I get the argument good Qbs don't need top tier WR talent to be good but they need NFL starting quality WRs and the Titans don't have that right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, reo said: yep The QB makes the WRs, not the other way around. When Tannehill has less pressure to be "the guy", his play will seem to improve and magically the WRs will have seemed to have stepped up. QBs can't make receivers get open and make uncontested catches. You're stretching this to an absurd degree. Starting caliber NFL receivers would not have made the mistakes we saw yesterday. What we have been seeing is what happens when you trot out back up level receivers and can't pass protect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Mythos27 said: QBs can't make receivers get open and make uncontested catches. You're stretching this to an absurd degree. sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 I've always been in the camp that good QBs elevate WRs and teams shouldn't spend top 5 picks on them but this shit is bonkers. You still need to have guys who belong on an NFL field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 You know what's overblown? The idea that Brady never played with good receivers. Moss is the goat, Welker might see the HOF, and Edelman was in the pro bowl for most of his career. Not to mention Brady's lines have almost always been pretty good, just like it has been this year for Mac Jones who is average in the pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, reo said: sure Have you ever played receiver? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 You're right. The idea that you ever actually played is quite humorous. Well played! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Mythos27 said: You know what's overblown? The idea that Brady never played with good receivers. Moss is the goat, Welker might see the HOF, and Edelman was in the pro bowl for most of his career. Not to mention Brady's lines have almost always been pretty good, just like it has been this year for Mac Jones who is average in the pocket. Moss played three years with Brady and he had some of the best numbers while in decline. Welker was a nobody in Miami until he played with Brady and a nobody after. Edelman put up No. 2 numbers most of his career. He elevated them. Brady also suddenly has an elite line in Tampa after Winston took 47 sacks with the same group. Give credit where credit is due. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, JoelinBellevue said: I will. To Belichick. Brady learned a lot. He also managed one TD against us in the playoffs. Not much elevation huh? And Lamar, well, he got no TDs. These scrubs. Brady has seven rings who cares about 1 bad performance in the playoffs? He still carried them there. The fact you use ONE game in the playoffs as some kind of sign. When he got them to the playoffs in the first place is so odd. You can't cherry pick Brady's career. He's been great a million-times more than he's bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, big2033 said: Moss played three years with Brady and he had some of the best numbers while in decline. Welker was a nobody in Miami until he played with Brady and a nobody after. Edelman put up No. 2 numbers most of his career. He elevated them. Brady also suddenly has an elite line in Tampa after Winston took 47 sacks with the same group. Give credit where credit is due. If it was all Brady then why didn't he "elevate" Aaron Dobson who the team used a second round pick on? Why didn't he elevate Chad Jackson who they used a first round pick on? Should I keep posting failed Patriots receivers that Brady couldn't elevate or are you starting to get the point? Matter of fact, why couldn't he elevate Edelman that last year in New England? The answer is obvious but you can't accept that. A receiver has to be playing at a starting caliber level to even be "elevated" and those guys weren't good enough. You're confusing elevate with turning shit into gold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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