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1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

I didn’t quote him. It’s my thread. And it is something of interest to me sense I heard the claim around here followed up by other places and did some research into the numbers. 

Okay that makes sense.  But in general their conspiracy theories are just so out there and if you actually believe any of that nonsense then trying to argue with them is a fruitless exercise.  Having a rationale discussion with them, as we see on this board on a daily basis, is impossible, and they're not rationale people.  So it's best to pretend they don't exist.

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23 minutes ago, scine09 said:

Okay that makes sense.  But in general their conspiracy theories are just so out there and if you actually believe any of that nonsense then trying to argue with them is a fruitless exercise.  Having a rationale discussion with them, as we see on this board on a daily basis, is impossible, and they're not rationale people.  So it's best to pretend they don't exist.

Yeah. It just pisses me off that they take something that merits a discussion and just spew all across the board. 
 

There is a 5% difference in the national numbers compared to NY numbers. That is worth discussing. Was it because there were more infections in the first place? Were the Covid patients brought in to the NH quarantined properly? Did the decision affect the overall total? Was it a worthy Trade-off where younger, healthier people were treated which led to the deaths of some older people? In future situations is this a policy when hospitals are flooded that should be tried again? Was it a mistake, or was it a risk analysis? We should have that conversation, but it seems impossible, even with the left because then they go into defensive mode most of the time because the argument is constantly presented to them from every angle by people not interested in any discussion whatsoever. 

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12 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Yeah. It just pisses me off that they take something that merits a discussion and just spew all across the board. 
 

There is a 5% difference in the national numbers compared to NY numbers. That is worth discussing. Was it because there were more infections in the first place? Were the Covid patients brought in to the NH quarantined properly? Did the decision affect the overall total? Was it a worthy Trade-off where younger, healthier people were treated which led to the deaths of some older people? In future situations is this a policy when hospitals are flooded that should be tried again? Was it a mistake, or was it a risk analysis? We should have that conversation, but it seems impossible, even with the left because then they go into defensive mode most of the time because the argument is constantly presented to them from every angle by people not interested in any discussion whatsoever. 

The goals of optimal individual healthcare vs aggressive local infection containment are difficult to reconcile. But for sure that’s not the intent of the Thor’s of the world looking to distort any fact while limiting context — all while running interference for the worst global covid management vs the nation’s resources. Additionally these are the same people who touted the Sweden model, a country that blatantly put their elderly at risk and they died in numbers grossly higher than neighboring Nordic countries.

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Can you believe what these crooked lying bastards are pulling now??? Remember when dems went ape shit over Trump holding funding from Sanctuary cities??? Now these same cretins are threatening to hold funds from counties that open early... Can you believe that because I sure can... These corrupt turds would rather keep funds from Americans taking a stand for liberty and freedom but, would choose to keep funding ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS that have entered our country not only illegally, but to take our jobs, and support their criminal activities over the lives of our children and families... 

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8 hours ago, thor said:

LOL!!! So I should believe any democrat??? period??? Or the MSM??? Hell, I'd rather believe news that has gotten what 10 things wrong rather then 10 things hourly...

I'm not saying run to CNN or FOX.  They are terrible sources of information.  I AM saying that websites like the gateway pundit are a step down even from those and it's been easily proven over and over again.

 

If this is where you regularly get your news, you're in no position to hurl stones at anyone.  

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3 hours ago, Justafan said:

I'm not saying run to CNN or FOX.  They are terrible sources of information.  I AM saying that websites like the gateway pundit are a step down even from those and it's been easily proven over and over again.

 

If this is where you regularly get your news, you're in no position to hurl stones at anyone.  

 

I've listened to crap from lemmings like you for over 3 years --- spewing lie after lie --- I would trust "The Gateway Pundit" over anything you ranted or yapped... I see you just called that story a lie and I turned around and proved you wrong --- so now I'm supposed to believe you??? LOL!!! Yeah right!!! Go play liar and liberal the board game...

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15 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

I really am getting tired of the new mantra that Cuomo killed old people tripe that’s running rampant throughout the netherworld of the right wing. The numbers show it simply isn’t true. There was a slight statistical deviation in the numbers, but nothing noteworthy. NY lost 5% more nursing home patients than other areas hit by the virus. Seeing as they were by far hit the hardest of any region some deviation is to be expected. It was an emergency, and they had to use the resources available. Sheesh. 

 

More left wing bullshit... I suppose the millions and millions of dollars spent to put hospital beds up that weren't used is fine with you... Just seed retirement homes with people with the "China Virus" and let them die... Funny how it's 11 dem governors that did the same thing... Exactly what one would expect you racist turds to pull too... Liars and liberals!!!

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Those beds weren’t put into place until the hospitals were overloaded and the providers had a four hour window to discharge patients in which the insurance companies ended up deciding where they went, which wasn’t to isolation at home because they still needed care. 

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20 minutes ago, Btowner said:

The Houston area has reported six straight days of 1k+ cases. However, it didn't stop residents from enjoying, Go Topless Jeep weekend!

 

https://www.chron.com/coronavirus/article/Houston-coronavirus-updates-What-you-need-to-15277588.php

 

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/slideshow/Crowds-descend-on-Crystal-Beach-for-Go-Topless-202429.php?cmpid=trend

 

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2 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

 

Do you have a point with your endless drivel??? Or is this just more "put a mask on or you'll kill my grandmother" bs??? Doesn't look like any of those people are dead call in the dems... fink on them like a good little "state" democrat... 

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